Dominance, Dominance, Dominance!!!
I'm really sick of hearing about so-called "Dominance." really, done done done.
&...I don't even HAVE the dog yet.
But guess what? Did you know Dominance applies to birds too? Yes! If your bird is above your eye-level he will see himself as "dominant."
Oh, & NEVER let your bird sit on your shoulder. He'll feel he's dominating you.
Did you know, that if two birds hump eachother they are tying to dominate each other?
*facepalm*
If someone tells me my BIRDS are "dominant" one more time...
[ end rant ]
[ will probably have a repeat venting thread when I get a pup & have dog people tell me this ] ~
&...I don't even HAVE the dog yet.
But guess what? Did you know Dominance applies to birds too? Yes! If your bird is above your eye-level he will see himself as "dominant."
Oh, & NEVER let your bird sit on your shoulder. He'll feel he's dominating you.
Did you know, that if two birds hump eachother they are tying to dominate each other?
*facepalm*
If someone tells me my BIRDS are "dominant" one more time...
[ end rant ]
[ will probably have a repeat venting thread when I get a pup & have dog people tell me this ] ~
Comments
I wish I my car had dominance over torn tractor-trailer tires on the highway....(sorry i felt like ranting too.)
Oh, and just the other day I was walking Sevook with my neighbor and all of a sudden my neighbor's dog peed on a tree and Sevook went up to it and peed on the same tree and so my other neighbor that was sitting outside told me that my dog was exhibiting DOMINANT behavior! What...the...hell...
I probably would've ran screaming from your neighbor
Their young Akita is trying to "control the leash" sometimes, so they have to submit her... Riiiiight... A pup's intention for PULLING ON THE LEASH is always PURE DOMINANCE!!!
If I couldn't laugh about this, I might want to cry. Why do people always think that dogs (and birds...
THAT is what I consider anthropomorphizing of animals. Only because men and monkeys are always craving to dominate everything they presume every other creature on earth has to be the same... Is it sad or ridiculous?
Oh, and apperantly if a chicken pecks you, she's trying to be queen of the coop
The whole dominance theory is just ridiculous... Dogs are just dogs... Dogs who pull on leashes are not trying to be dominant... They are just trying to get where they want to go, even if you do not want them to go there. If your four year old child pulls on your hand to try and go into the toy store, are they being 'dominant'? Or just trying to get what they want?
Osy, if birds that sit on your shoulder are trying to dominate you, what about the spider that sits on my windshield as I am driving down the street? Is he/she trying to dominate me? lol.
The humping thing - I've only seen it in play, and it's never the "alpha rat" humping, it's always the young, silly ones.
For real tho, my favorite is when someone tells me their dog is "more alpha" or that they have a pack with 2 "alpha males". That doesn't even make sense if you subscribe to the debunked alpha/dominance theories.
----
This is why I love you guys
Ah man, it was pretty funny though because I stood there and gave my neighbor the whole "dominance theory has been disproven" speech and all I got back was a blank stare...haha, its probably a very foreign thought to him
Get to it people. Gotta show them who's boss!
I put my hand inside of my dog's mouth, but I never come too close to their cage... Those beasts really strive for world-domination... Freaking Nazi-rats... >.<
Walked the Shibas together for the first time in a couple of years yesterday, and Bel was frantic to sniff anywhere Toby did and pee over his pee. Dominance, don't you know? So eager to do this, she stuck her head in a little too close and got peed on.
That's what dominance will get you....pee on your head! *lol*
As for "dominance" in birds....well, I think African Greys are pretty smart and scary, and so world domination? Sure! If they could only work together, they'd rule the world.
DON'T FORGET! Be the Pack / Flock / Group Leader!!! ~
Nola will crouch down and pounce Bella while she is pooping... She gets so into being the 'dominant' Shiba that several times poop has bounced off her little head... Good thing Bella has nice solid poops! lol!
“it’s important to know that captive wolves exhibit stress-related dominant and submissive behaviors, but that these behaviors are rarely found in wild wolves. The reason for this is that captive wolves aren’t able to relieve their internal stress by going out as a group and hunting large prey, so they engage in internecine squabbles instead. Dominant and submissive behaviors are rare in wild wolves because hunting and killing large prey is the ultimate stress-reducer.” Here is a link to the whole article in context http://leecharleskelleysblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/seven-games-associated-with-predatory.html
This is really significant because the whole dominance theory or study with wolves is more than likely is a crock as well. Obviously, if true, past research has focused on corralled studies and it is highly probable abnormal or altered behavior was observed and recorded thereby resulting in a skewed way to handle it, let alone applied to dogs.
In my mind this further puts a nail in the coffin in regard dominance epistemology in training of canines in general. The whole dominance issue is flawed from the get go. (I think Brad pointed this out in some older posts.) However, the Dunbar video drove that home as it overlapped with Kelly.
Now how to communicate this fallacy to a 101 class of dog owners is tough without requiring them to take a full sociology segment on learning theory. Being decent at training and communicating as a trainer no easy task. A fully versed and flexible trainer is worth their weight in gold, certainly something to aspire to.
Some of the 7 sequences describes by Kelly have worked for many to build the relationship between human and dog and I think some of the best at agility and service people have put it into play with success without knowing it. It is nice to see it spelled out. Really forming the bond that keeps training interesting and motivates is the majority of the battle in maintaining attention and focus. Use of the inherent prey drive in play, truly relieves some stress that we often see exhibited in the day to day, such as barrier aggression, foot chewing, tail chasing or antics that result in recall problems.
Certainly an interesting read if one gets a chance.
Snf
Which reminded me of the faux Cesar videos that people linked in the the thread about trainers on FB....the Cesar Milan marriage counselor? *lol*