Rescuing overseas

okironokiron
edited July 2010 in General
Was this posted by a forum member? Not sure how I feel about this, especially since the forum has tried to rescue dogs from Japanese shelters and have hit road blocks.

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pet/1872777541.html

Comments

  • NekopanNekopan
    edited November -1
    I don't think this is a forum member. But this particular sentence made me do a double-take:

    "Japanese dogs are known to be very loyal and obedient to their owners. They have a tendency to be shy with strangers but not aggressive towards them. "

    Nihon Ken, loyal and obedient? Um, okay. I wonder if this person has ever met a NK.
  • jm1613jm1613
    edited November -1
    looks suspicious.
  • tjbart17tjbart17
    edited November -1
    Kyla I would describe both of my Kais just like that.

    Not my posting, but I'm not refuting that sentence at all.
  • NekopanNekopan
    edited November -1
    To be fair, I've never met a Kai. But I would be weary of describing any NK as "loyal and obedient". A border collie/ACD/insert herding breed is what comes to my mind when I hear someone say obedient. The loyalty of NK breeds such as the Akita has been refuted here in recent posts.
  • tjbart17tjbart17
    edited November -1
    No, I wouldn't describe all NK as that. I do agree with you. But a Kai, yes I would if mine are examples of the breed. I would describe Koda as more obedient than a Border Collie. I am his everything. He's stubborn at times, but very very loyal. Maymay might be loyal to my all of my family. She's a bit of a whore. lol. But definitely not to strangers. My dogs will totally ignore strangers.
  • BradA1878BradA1878
    edited August 2010
    It's funny, I wouldn't describe NK as obedient dogs, but I wouldn't describe them as disobedient either. Generally speaking, I don't find NK breeds to be "bad dogs", they rarely do "bad things" or misbehave, and they generally do what you ask them to do - even if it takes some extra convincing sometimes.

    They're not snappy like a BC tho... Well most of them aren't, Lani was, she was super snappy. If I asked her to come, she would run over to me and sit right in front of me as if she was saluting me or something. "Yes Drill Sergent!?" LOL She acted that way out-of-the-box, it took very little training to get her to perform basic obedience. Same with Loa, all Loa needs is a cookie...

    The rest of them tho take a bit more persuasion. Ahi can be out in the yard behind the platform "hiding", if I go out and call her name she will not come - I could do this for HOURS and she wouldn't budge; but then I walk over to where she knows I can see her and call her, and she will walk right over to me. She's such a brat. LOL

    Neither labels sound correct to me for the NK breeds. :oT

    Maybe "selectively obedient" and loyal is better??? LOL

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  • dlrobertsdlroberts
    edited November -1
    I'd have to agree with both Tara and Brad. I think calling NK "obedient" in general is probably not great. My Shibas listen if there's nothing more interesting going on. And even then, they do things at "Shiba speed" meaning they'll take their sweet time and stop to smell the roses (or dog poop) along the way. Tyson on the other hand believes his world revolves around me. He's almost never out of sight and comes running at the first hint of my call, except when he's in drive mode. If he is in drive mode, a sharp "HEY!" will snap him out and he'll happily come running back. Him I would call loyal and obedient, not the Shibas though.

    I guess, like always, it comes down to the individual dog.
  • tjbart17tjbart17
    edited November -1
    lol if Koda is in drive mode I say "don't get in trouble son" with a firm voice and he snaps out of it
  • dlrobertsdlroberts
    edited November -1
    LOL. Nice Tara!
  • HeidiHeidi
    edited November -1
    "Loyal" and "obedient" are relative terms. I mean, they are loyal and obedient in that they do have a level of loyalty and obedience, but not especially so compared to other breeds.

    I don't know. Sometimes it's hard to tell what a certain breed is really like because it seems like there's only a handful of words that get used to describe dogs. Loyal and obedient are two, then there's intelligent, friendly, active, affectionate, and others. I think those terms describe the species in general.

    Not sure if I'm making sense, but a lot of words used to describe different dogs don't mean a whole lot unless you compare it to something.
  • okironokiron
    edited August 2010
    I understand what you mean Heidi. You can use the same words and correctly describe 2 completely opposite dogs.
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