Well she started again yesterday. I don't understand what the issue is with Taro. He won't even look at her, instead he humps the crap out of sammi who is fixed... Total fail. I'm hoping I can get the ofa tests done in november.
My god, Kurenai didn't come into heat until end of August! I look at this thread and Koyuki's was in April? I know they are pretty close in age too! Best of luck to you Gen. I didn't realize you can get OFA tests done so early? Kurenai is only turning 1 in October.
Is it too early? I have no clue when they can get it done. Koyuki will be 1 at the end of october. I'm waiting till things calm down once the baby is born.
This question should probably be answered by a breeder but orthopedic issues can show up as early as 7-10 months of age. If you know her pedigree 3-4 generations back you can usually rule out these issues as they are genetic.
Nice good to know, as far as I know there shouldn't be any issues in either one of the dogs but I would like to do a proper health screening before I decide to breed the two. Thanks guys for the help. I just started to do my research but had not even seen the age requirement.
Kimi has a pair of red undies; think the branding is "Bitch Breifs", she isn't a huge fan of them, but combined with a pad they keep the house blood free. Kimi also gave us a minor scare once by starting to bleed again after a failed breeding attempt; the vet did his tests because he thought she might have some ovaric condition, but all good and it was determined she had just had a split season...and the second round is when the breeding would have worked. So much for being able to predict things...
For OFA hips, it's 24 months. PennHip is 16 weeks.
OFA Patella is 12 months.
OFA Thyroid is also 12 months with re-examinations recommended about annually.
There's also CERF (eye exams) which are recommended annually. I'm not sure about the age but I would shoot for 2 yrs.
It can become a lengthy list for things to test for. If there was more information about what Kishus in Japan are prone to, the tests can be narrowed down to what's more useful.
From what I know, the kishu isn't prone to too many defects but since tests aren't done much in Japan, I'm just starting to do my research. From talking with my friend, taro's pedigree is pretty damn healthy. Koyuki is really well put together also and has really good conformation. So I need to do a bit more studying on what I need to do.
It really depends on the breed and pedigree what you need to check for. IMO I wouldn't really bother with Kais as far as knees/hips go. I would make sure to check eyes though, especially in the US lines.
Shikoku I would check hips and knees.
Shiba I'd probably check it all.
Kishu who the heck knows.
This is coming from a person who has spent a lot of $$ on orthopedic surgeries for her dogs.
I have done and I will do every possible healthy test for my breeding dogs. The thing is now that we "don't" have any healthy problems because people don't do them so they must be healthy, right? I have seen this happen to Schipperkes here in Finland. Ten years ago we had "the healthiest" lines in the Europe. And when people started to test their breeding and pet dogs more the truth wasn't so good. I really hope that the threshold to test your dog would come lower, basic test really aren't so expensive IMO. All my future Kai puppies will also be healthy tested and I'm paying them for the owners.
@brittk there have been sone early onsets of catarax. Did I spell that correctly? I would just check for it. Really it's just my opinion though but I thought I'd say it. My thought process on this interested me especially since koda had surgery on his knee. I didn't seem in my head to worry about knee problems.
Not a Kishu, but when Conker turns two I'm going to do as many of those tests as I can just to see what's up. Especially thyroid, patella (I already know he's got LP but I still want to do it) and eyes.
Any dogs I might be remotely interested in breeding in the future will get the whole shebang even if their lines have proven otherwise. I'm not a firm believer in the OFA and other databases having 100% correct information (I forget which threat that was discussed in) but it would be handy for me to be able to compare certain dogs' results/x-rays for overall health.
Wow lots of good stuff and @brittk, dont worry more info the better. Thanks Tara for some excellent info, I know you been going through a lot of stuff with Koda.
lol @shishiinu I'm really good at getting into discussions that have nothing to do with me lately. I think it's the fact that I'm trapped at home with Koda. I've turned into a Yenta!
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@brada1878 @ayk what age should this be done?
OFA Patella is 12 months.
OFA Thyroid is also 12 months with re-examinations recommended about annually.
There's also CERF (eye exams) which are recommended annually. I'm not sure about the age but I would shoot for 2 yrs.
It can become a lengthy list for things to test for. If there was more information about what Kishus in Japan are prone to, the tests can be narrowed down to what's more useful.
Jesse
Shikoku I would check hips and knees.
Shiba I'd probably check it all.
Kishu who the heck knows.
This is coming from a person who has spent a lot of $$ on orthopedic surgeries for her dogs.
Sorry Gen, dont want to thread jack. I feel like Koyuki was just in season...time flies!
Any dogs I might be remotely interested in breeding in the future will get the whole shebang even if their lines have proven otherwise. I'm not a firm believer in the OFA and other databases having 100% correct information (I forget which threat that was discussed in) but it would be handy for me to be able to compare certain dogs' results/x-rays for overall health.