Lol, those are japanese dishes that I can't live without. Yeah seems like its the same old discussion. Every ones entitled to their opinions and most all here knows I'm a die hard hunter. No vegan will ever be able to change my mind, just don't force your agenda on me.
I'm pretty sure, if it got really bad and there was no food at all for weeks, and I tripped out in the yard and was knocked unconscious or something, at least one of our dogs would attempt to eat me.
@shishiinu - whoa cowboy, nobody is trying to force any agenda on you. This is a "discussion". I did comment on your 'funny' choice of words, though. Reread what you wrote.....
Yeah, old ground. While I would prefer to eat meat that is humanely raised and slaughtered, I can't afford to buy all free-range stuff for either me or the dogs.
A lot of chickens die to feed my dogs alone. Yes, I would prefer them to have better lives than they do, but I don't think me singlehandedly deciding to not eat meat is going to shut down the meat industry, and I'd still be buying meat for my dogs.
Brad, you'd better watch out if food gets scarce, since that exact thing actually did happen to someone in my old neighborhood. Really old lady had three dogs and no family. Well, one day she died, and nobody knew it until the neighbors noticed a funky smell and went to investigate three days later. What the cops found was not pretty.
Thanks Rina. I am what happens when you have been vegan for a very long time AND work with animals. My dogs are not vegetarian, nor should they be. If I lived in a different climate I would not be able to be vegan (example; Mongolia). I personally would rather people hunt and kill their food than buy some animal raised in a factory. But my opinions are mine, and have no place being forced on others. You wouldn't have liked fifteen year old vegan Jessica... I was an asshole.
I also regret and apologize for any bad feelings I engendered. If the way something is stated strikes me as funny, I should just keep it to myself - talk about poor taste!
I did not mean to disrespect vegans, omnivores, or carnivores of any species.
Maybe this story will get the discussion back on track. Some twenty+ years ago when I was working in EMS I responded to a call for a possible DOA. An 80 year old man was last seen around Christmas by neighbors and it was March. Upon entering the house one could not avoid noticing a number of dog poops (around 30-40) on the floor. A little further into the foyer and near the living room lay the mummified remains of this gentleman with his dog by his side. I believe a chocolate Lab mix. The dog had laid down and died near his master after living for sometime. This mans remains were untouched by the dog. So who is the real predator species?
I'm with Brad here. I'm pretty sure one of the dogs would try and eat me if they were hungry and I was dead. Now when I had my GSD, I think he'd be SO concerned if something like that happened....he'd take the lab approach. But the Shibas? I think they'd eat me. I don't know about the Akita. He's pretty suspicious of "new foods."
Very easily actually. First off humans consume WAY too much protein. I also get gobs of protein from beings, nuts and grains. As far as iron, I get it from dark leafy greens, beans, and many other colorful vegetables. Most nutritionists are now acknowledging that the micronutrients in plant based diets are much more readily absorbed than the macronutrients from animal sources. My doctor was actually skeptical that I would be getting everything I need from my chosen lifestyle. So I agreed to get full blood panel, and bone density tests to prove to her that I was indeed healthy. I did this every six months for two years. She eventually had to concede that not only was I not malnourished in anyway, but they I may be one of the healthiest patients she has ever had. Sidenote, vegans have the lowest cancer rates of any group.
@shishiinu - be careful what you ask for cause you just might get it - haha!
Greens provide a plentiful source of iron and complementing grains and legumes provide complete set of essential protein in good amounts, as does soy, hemp, and quinoa. Vegan foods used to be somewhat limited, but today there are amazing choices and excellent restaurants.
Vegans need to supplement with vitamin B12, but recent surveys indicate that 40% of those consuming a standard american diet (SAD) are also deficient in B12 despite its prevalence in the diet. Additionally, american human omnivores eat many supplemented products that provide adequate nutrients (e.g. bread and milk) in response to wide spread deficiency diseases.
The typical American diet is frequently eaten without much thought and the vegan diet is frequently given much thought, but either can be healthy or not. It reeks of karma that the "agricultural" animals we kill for food, kill us in the end.
Americans are facing health care issues that are primarily a result of inflammation that is diet-based. I keep saying American only b/c I am not familiar with current info on nutrition in other countries, but the SAD diet is a one full of processed foods and I dont think this is solely an american issue - or human. Most american dogs consume only processed foods.
That's creepy, but they did what they had to. Survival is survival. It's not like they killed the guy.
I know my comment came off as a joke, but I really was not kidding about my dogs eating me in a worst-case situation. I'm sure, just like it would take an extreme for me to eat one of them, it would take an extreme for them to eat me too. They'd probably eat each other too.
Its funny how this new world/century is changing our minds. Something that was "normal" centuries ago its seen as vulgar and inhumane. Many cultures are losing their customs for the sake of being accepted in the modern era. In Barcelona, Spain, they just prohibited bullfighting, lets remember that the biggest and one of the most famous and important bullfight stadium (or whatever is called), its found in Barcelona, bullfighting runs in the veins of Spanish people, and many live from that.
Im not saying it is ok to kill and eat a dog, I, personally, wouldnt do it, never, no matter what, the same with others animal that I could make a bond with.
Went from talking about a end of a dog eating carnival to vegans vs people who eat meat..
Anyways Yeah there's a lot of things that is considered taboo. Some cultures they eat rats, bugs, snakes etc. Or horses some think all that is gross, but to them it's fine..
I never eaten dog before don't think I will ever just doesn't sound good.
To some eating raw oyster is gross and well to me it's yummy.. Same goes for sushi some find eating raw fish gross or octopus or eel etc.
@the_november_rain - what body parts? Most of us (and our dogs) eat body parts daily. Or is it just Brad's body parts you worry about....
One of the things I studied in that Nutritional Anthropology class was cannibalism. It is also ritualistic, ceremonious, and meaningful - although sometimes an act of desperation. However, the practice is "dying" out.
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I always tell Inu his rear thighs look mighty tasty. lol!
A lot of chickens die to feed my dogs alone. Yes, I would prefer them to have better lives than they do, but I don't think me singlehandedly deciding to not eat meat is going to shut down the meat industry, and I'd still be buying meat for my dogs.
Really old lady had three dogs and no family. Well, one day she died, and nobody knew it until the neighbors noticed a funky smell and went to investigate three days later. What the cops found was not pretty.
I am what happens when you have been vegan for a very long time AND work with animals. My dogs are not vegetarian, nor should they be. If I lived in a different climate I would not be able to be vegan (example; Mongolia). I personally would rather people hunt and kill their food than buy some animal raised in a factory. But my opinions are mine, and have no place being forced on others.
You wouldn't have liked fifteen year old vegan Jessica... I was an asshole.
I did not mean to disrespect vegans, omnivores, or carnivores of any species.
Maybe if I got more iron i'd have more energy to be offended....
My doctor was actually skeptical that I would be getting everything I need from my chosen lifestyle. So I agreed to get full blood panel, and bone density tests to prove to her that I was indeed healthy. I did this every six months for two years. She eventually had to concede that not only was I not malnourished in anyway, but they I may be one of the healthiest patients she has ever had.
Sidenote, vegans have the lowest cancer rates of any group.
Greens provide a plentiful source of iron and complementing grains and legumes provide complete set of essential protein in good amounts, as does soy, hemp, and quinoa. Vegan foods used to be somewhat limited, but today there are amazing choices and excellent restaurants.
Vegans need to supplement with vitamin B12, but recent surveys indicate that 40% of those consuming a standard american diet (SAD) are also deficient in B12 despite its prevalence in the diet. Additionally, american human omnivores eat many supplemented products that provide adequate nutrients (e.g. bread and milk) in response to wide spread deficiency diseases.
The typical American diet is frequently eaten without much thought and the vegan diet is frequently given much thought, but either can be healthy or not. It reeks of karma that the "agricultural" animals we kill for food, kill us in the end.
Americans are facing health care issues that are primarily a result of inflammation that is diet-based. I keep saying American only b/c I am not familiar with current info on nutrition in other countries, but the SAD diet is a one full of processed foods and I dont think this is solely an american issue - or human. Most american dogs consume only processed foods.
You can find out more at http://jacknorrisrd.com/, http://vegandietitian.blogspot.com/, or http://www.theveganrd.com/ for information from registered dietitians who are also vegan - and realists. And for a physician's perspective: http://www.pcrm.org/, John McDougall, MD, Caldwell Esselstyn, MD, and Joel Fuhrman, MD.
"I wish I was as great as my dog thinks I am"
http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/79365732.html
Freaks me out.
I think Koda would die next to me. He's my sensitive boy. Mei would eat me.....
I know my comment came off as a joke, but I really was not kidding about my dogs eating me in a worst-case situation. I'm sure, just like it would take an extreme for me to eat one of them, it would take an extreme for them to eat me too. They'd probably eat each other too.
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Im not saying it is ok to kill and eat a dog, I, personally, wouldnt do it, never, no matter what, the same with others animal that I could make a bond with.
Anyways Yeah there's a lot of things that is considered taboo. Some cultures they eat rats, bugs, snakes etc. Or horses some think all that is gross, but to them it's fine..
I never eaten dog before don't think I will ever just doesn't sound good.
To some eating raw oyster is gross and well to me it's yummy.. Same goes for sushi some find eating raw fish gross or octopus or eel etc.
I kinda like eel octopus is OK pretty chewy.
One of the things I studied in that Nutritional Anthropology class was cannibalism. It is also ritualistic, ceremonious, and meaningful - although sometimes an act of desperation. However, the practice is "dying" out.