I don't know how popular it is yet. Sometimes I see photos and it is just a tweenie but I did see one that clearly had the skull shape of the husky and the forward akita ears.
"AW is the Jerry Springer Show of the Akita world. It's such a train wreck to look at but I always seem to head back. Speaking of which someone is showing off their Huskita right now. -Sigh"
But Dr Tatsuo Kimura has translated all the Japanese from the Akita Scholars of old, there. His column is exactly why I bought Akita World.
He's older now and will not participate in any split discussion, but he knows his historical standards. Some were perfect, even blends. I differ a bit in that no one needs to split a gene pool, esp when there are things that both have and more diversity is esp sought. Loren's site has many articles that Tats translated. www.northlandakitas.com
Huskita in AW? AW stopped publishing about a month ago, was it? I guess there will be more volumes instead of periodicals.
Nothing out of the northlands website or Tatsuo Kimura does anything for me, As a someone who likes history, I accept it as similar facts different conclusion.
On a funny side note, I cited some of their arguments as reasons to split during for the proposal to UKC.
There's another FB page called "The Ethical Akita" which is a group set up to counter the FB Akita world, which, yes, is pretty awful. The Ethical Akita is mostly breeders of AAs but has had some decent discussions.
alright, gonna bump this cause I am going to vent.
I'm used to getting "wolf" guess about Toki by now, but I guess people's blind ignorance combined with self-righteous attitudes frustrates me.
This lady in petsmart comes up and tries to pet Toki, and of course, he doesn't let her. She asks me, "is he part wolf?" No, Japanese Akita. (Conversation went elsewhere) and she came back to him and asked "Does he normally not look at people in the eyes?" Err...no. "Oh. That is the part-wolf inside him. Wolves don't like to look at people" Bitch please. He is AKIHO and JACA registered with over 10 generations of registered pedigrees. I can assure you that he is not a wolf. If you knew anything about the akita like you claim to know, you would know that they are a primitive breed, so they are not very friendly to people they do not know. And you should know better than try to make eye contact with a strange dog, especially one that doesn't seem to like you. (She didn't have a reply and walked off, and I didn't really say "bitch please", but I damn well thought it).
I don't have a problem at all with questions or silly guesses, but when you try to tell me what kind of dog I have, and tell me his is a wolf-hybrid after i clearly stated he is JA, did it ever occur to you that the owner *might* actually know more about the breed than you do?
Heh, that's like the comment I got today in Petco after telling someone to keep their distance since they were scaring Conker: "He's only afraid because he is part fox. Shibas are part fox, ya know. Makes 'em skittish." Uh... No... he's a DOG. Say it with me. D-O-G, not dogfox, or foxdog. Just a dog, thanks, and he's afraid of you because you are staring at him and making a ton of noise with that big bag of crappy "food" on your shoulder that you have to move every two seconds. My filter only lasts one strike. If they keep annoying me, I say what's on my mind, whatever it might be. Works every time to get people to leave me alone.
Wow, I am very thankful I haven't gotten that yet. I don't think it would go well. When I'm walking with Arg, I'll get comments along the lines of "he looks like a fox/coyote/wolf." But no one has yet to tell me that he is part any of these things, just that he resembles them in some way. I have only had a couple of people try to tell me he is a shiba cross, but I correct them and everyone, so far, has taken in well and asked me a little bit more about the shikoku. Sometimes people ask me if he's a Norwegian Elkhound or some sort of husky cross, but they also take the news well and don't insist they know what he is. I think it's a little bit better to be told your dog is a dog as opposed to some other species, even if they get the breed wrong!
Maybe it's a Canadian thing? Always apologizing for making mistakes? Haha.
I can't believe how stupid those comments are though, @jellyfart@losech.
>> @jellyfart: did it ever occur to you that the owner *might* actually know more about the breed than you do?
Well considering how many people think their AA is a JA ... this argument doesn't hold much water.
I had a cute little boy crying out at Petsmart the other day, "FOX! Fox! Daddy, daddy, look at the fox!!" when I took Mosura for the first time. I will admit, she has a *very* pointy face and looks even foxier (of the arctic variety) than Gojira. Anyway, it was cute, and I didn't have the heart to correct the little kid. He doesn't know any better, and seeing a "real live fox" probably made his day.
@jellyfart I'm so paranoid about people assuming London is a wolf/wolfdog (because it happens so frequently) I actually got him a bright orange tufflex collar that reads 'I AM A MALAMUTE' across the length. People tend not to ask after seeing it, but I have had one person comment about it being pretentious.
I'm looking forward to the day when both of my white Akitas can be walked together... you better believe I'm takin' my American and my Japanese *everywhere* just to be like "No, look, THIS is the difference!!"
@shishiinu It was clearly magic. ;P I sometimes think people don't actually know what dog breeds look like, they just latch onto well-known breeds. Shame on your neighbour, though. You'd think he'd know better being your neighbour and all. "Hi, I live next to you, but I never figured out if that thing in your house is a pitbull, a cat, or a fish."
Maybe if I call Argos my "teacup wolf" people will leave me alone.
People do often ask me if my Shibas are Akitas, and more than once someone has specifically said "is that a toy Akita?" Uh no.
But my favorite misidentification? Someone said to me about Oskar (AA): Oh, I know what that dog is! It's a echinachea. The same day someone asked if he were an Ikea.
My Akita is not a flower. Nor is he a furniture store.
Right, you would think neighbors would be cool. Nope not in my hood, my neighbor directly behind is a flaming d-bag. We are now going through some head ache right now over a shared fence that's falling apart because his loose dirt bank is eroding. But yeah he think Taro is a long haired, curly tail, one ear pricked pitbull...
I took Juno to pick up my daughter at afterschool program, where I knew one of the ladies who works there rescues Shibas (she has 3, plus whatever rescues at the moment) and would appreciate meeting a Kai Ken. While they were greeting and petting Juno, she said to another woman in the office "See, mine are Shiba INUs, THIS is a Shiba KAI." oh, sooo close....
I guess i'll chime in on this too. My first time taking Ciqala to the vet, the vet tech though she was a cat, after correcting her, her second guess was a bear cub. Luckily, the actual vet was smarter.
Being here in Australia means my Shiba Inu gets mistaken for a dingo all the time. When I took him to his very first show, another exhibitor (!), whom I didn't know, from the working dog (herding) group shocked me by looking at Rocco and saying, "Oh wow, I didn't know that dingos were shown." At first I just stared at her, wasn't sure whether or not to take her seriously. I mean, really? From another exhibitor?? Turns out she was serious. When I told her that Rocco was a Shiba Inu, she was so embarrassed, I kinda felt bad for her...especially after I looked at her dog and added, "Lovely Groenendael."
Most people on the streets think that Rocco is either a fox or a dingo, but sometimes an Akita. Even more people just look at him and say, "Hey! Did you ever see that movie called 'Hachi'?" I'm more annoyed by the people who misidentify my Miniature Pinschers as "Chihuahua crosses", and my Italian Greyhound as a "Miniature Whippet."
@shibamistress , I laughed until my stomach actually hurt reading yours and @poeticdragon 's comments about your better Akita 'misidentification moments', lol!
(Omigosh, I just clicked "Permalink" by mistake. I don't know what that is. Am I going to get yelled at for it?)
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But Dr Tatsuo Kimura has translated all the Japanese from the Akita Scholars of old, there. His column is exactly why I bought Akita World.
He's older now and will not participate in any split discussion, but he knows his historical standards. Some were perfect, even blends.
I differ a bit in that no one needs to split a gene pool, esp when there are things that both have and more diversity is esp sought.
Loren's site has many articles that Tats translated.
www.northlandakitas.com
Huskita in AW? AW stopped publishing about a month ago, was it? I guess there will be more volumes instead of periodicals.
Er... merle is a dominant gene. The blue-eye of huskies is probably a dominant gene. No way that this is a throwback to the Karafuto.
On a funny side note, I cited some of their arguments as reasons to split during for the proposal to UKC.
I'm used to getting "wolf" guess about Toki by now, but I guess people's blind ignorance combined with self-righteous attitudes frustrates me.
This lady in petsmart comes up and tries to pet Toki, and of course, he doesn't let her. She asks me, "is he part wolf?" No, Japanese Akita. (Conversation went elsewhere) and she came back to him and asked "Does he normally not look at people in the eyes?" Err...no. "Oh. That is the part-wolf inside him. Wolves don't like to look at people" Bitch please. He is AKIHO and JACA registered with over 10 generations of registered pedigrees. I can assure you that he is not a wolf. If you knew anything about the akita like you claim to know, you would know that they are a primitive breed, so they are not very friendly to people they do not know. And you should know better than try to make eye contact with a strange dog, especially one that doesn't seem to like you. (She didn't have a reply and walked off, and I didn't really say "bitch please", but I damn well thought it).
I don't have a problem at all with questions or silly guesses, but when you try to tell me what kind of dog I have, and tell me his is a wolf-hybrid after i clearly stated he is JA, did it ever occur to you that the owner *might* actually know more about the breed than you do?
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Uh... No... he's a DOG. Say it with me. D-O-G, not dogfox, or foxdog. Just a dog, thanks, and he's afraid of you because you are staring at him and making a ton of noise with that big bag of crappy "food" on your shoulder that you have to move every two seconds.
My filter only lasts one strike. If they keep annoying me, I say what's on my mind, whatever it might be. Works every time to get people to leave me alone.
When I'm walking with Arg, I'll get comments along the lines of "he looks like a fox/coyote/wolf." But no one has yet to tell me that he is part any of these things, just that he resembles them in some way.
I have only had a couple of people try to tell me he is a shiba cross, but I correct them and everyone, so far, has taken in well and asked me a little bit more about the shikoku. Sometimes people ask me if he's a Norwegian Elkhound or some sort of husky cross, but they also take the news well and don't insist they know what he is. I think it's a little bit better to be told your dog is a dog as opposed to some other species, even if they get the breed wrong!
Maybe it's a Canadian thing? Always apologizing for making mistakes? Haha.
I can't believe how stupid those comments are though, @jellyfart @losech.
Well considering how many people think their AA is a JA ... this argument doesn't hold much water.
I had a cute little boy crying out at Petsmart the other day, "FOX! Fox! Daddy, daddy, look at the fox!!" when I took Mosura for the first time. I will admit, she has a *very* pointy face and looks even foxier (of the arctic variety) than Gojira.
dawwww, now that is just cute!!
and touche to your first comment ;P
@shishiinu Oh no, did animal control mistake him for a pitbull, too?
@poeticdragon That's gotta be every JA owners dream!
Maybe if I call Argos my "teacup wolf" people will leave me alone.
But my favorite misidentification? Someone said to me about Oskar (AA): Oh, I know what that dog is! It's a echinachea. The same day someone asked if he were an Ikea.
My Akita is not a flower. Nor is he a furniture store.
@Yandharr That's an LMAO. Good vet test though: "What species do you think this animal is?" ... "Okay, we're leaving."
Yeah, it blows my mind when they can't even figure out that species! (or in my case, that my Akita even was a animal! *lol*)
Most people on the streets think that Rocco is either a fox or a dingo, but sometimes an Akita. Even more people just look at him and say, "Hey! Did you ever see that movie called 'Hachi'?" I'm more annoyed by the people who misidentify my Miniature Pinschers as "Chihuahua crosses", and my Italian Greyhound as a "Miniature Whippet."
@shibamistress , I laughed until my stomach actually hurt reading yours and @poeticdragon 's comments about your better Akita 'misidentification moments', lol!
(Omigosh, I just clicked "Permalink" by mistake. I don't know what that is. Am I going to get yelled at for it?)