JA and AA in USA
Hi all,
I have a question. In USA are there 2 different breed clubs for the japanese akita and american akita, or not? I know that in USA it is a unique breed, and both are judged in the same ring during the expo, is it correct? If it is so, I would like know the reason, because there are differences between 2 kinds.
Thanks for the answers!
I have a question. In USA are there 2 different breed clubs for the japanese akita and american akita, or not? I know that in USA it is a unique breed, and both are judged in the same ring during the expo, is it correct? If it is so, I would like know the reason, because there are differences between 2 kinds.
Thanks for the answers!
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http://www.akitaclub.org/ for ACA
http://www.akita-inu.com/jaca-member-resources/ JACA
https://m.facebook.com/akiho.la/ this is AKIHO for the JA.
here is a video JA vs AA
here is another.
The Akitainu Hozonkai - established in the late 1920s is a preservation society for the Japanese Akita. Akiho has many branches in Japan. The oldest foreign branch is in Los Angeles. It was established in 1970. Akiho Los Angles, defined by its bylaws, represents Akiho I the United States. There are also Akiho clubs in Europe. AKIHO is the highest level of JA showing in the world.
Japanese Akita Club of America - was established in 1997 and is the parent club of the Japanese Akita. JACA works with the United Kennel Club which show the JA as its own breed just like the rest of the world. JACA is sister clubs with Akiho LA. JACA is also a charitable organization.
There is no national kennel club in the USA. The AKC is the largest and most widely recognized. The UKC(United Kennel Club) is the second largest. AKC and CKC(Canadian Kennel Club) are the last two major kennel clubs to see the Akita as one breed.
Last weekend both Akiho and JACA held their major shows. You can find their photos on the club(s) Facebook page.
Is AKC really that important? If you feel that AKC is the Kennel club for the United States then yes it's a huge deal. Right now it brings more headaches than benefits. Here is the US we are starting to a see a rise in people who are back yard breeders. Some are registering AKC because they cannot register UKC due to the heritage of their Akitas. JACA has raised thousands of dollars in the past few months to help rescues deal with Japanese Akitas who are dumped in shelters.
The next issue is the overall quality of the Japanese Akitas. While there are a lot of quality European Japanese Akita breeders we've notice a huge uptick in the number of JA being breed with major issues (full white collars, white blazes that continue over the head, structure issues, corrective surgery on puppies, and breeding known VKH/SA Japanese Akitas). We were very surprised to learn that this has been noticed at Akiho HQ as well. The number of poor quality Japanese Akitas being shown on the internet is drowning out the excellent breeders that can be found all across Europe. Even Akiho isn't immune to these issues. Their new Chinese branches got caught with falsified litter registrations.
This is going to sound crazy but for now our current system is working. The Japanese Akitas have two very reputable places to register and show their dogs. The Akita people have their places to register and show their dogs. I'm cool with that.
ETA: Honestly I am happy NOT having AKC. The number of BYB and mills that would pop up overnight is really scary. As it is we're doing a very good job managing, but the breed popularity and bad breeders are on the rise. We don't need to open the flood gates.
I spoke to Dr. Pedersen over the phone. At the end of the call we both agreed that the best thing to do was to fund a separate Japanese Akita only test. We both agreed that the breed wasn't going to be merged so it made little sense to run one big test. The problem I ran into wasn't the test or Dr. Pedersen. People just didn't want to be involved if you and Saija are involved. I don't what you did in your early UC Davis studies but these people trusted you with their sample Akitas that left a very sour taste in their mouth.
For others it was how the test was setup - breed choice was 1 Akita -American Type 2 Blend and 3 Japanese Type. I chuckled with Dr. Pedersen that you most likely will want a summary stating that the akita is one breed to come out very early in the test. Then BAM there it is right on time. So for them it's stuff like that - people need to know that their sample is going to be used for objective research. In this case they just don't It's a bummer because Dr. Pedersen really is a nice person to speak with.
I'm sure you'll agree that the best way to continue is to fund a study with another University. One that follows the breeds setup by the FCI so that the testing is comparing apples to apples. The more studies we get the better we will all be in the future. Choices are a good thing and I can't wait to offer owners multiple options to help them make educated breeding decisions.
I didn't have expectations of the study in terms of one breed or two: that isn't my basic interest in it. You and Sean can continue to promote all the lies about me you want: the genetics and interpretation of it are what they are.
It's hard to comprehend how uncomprehending people can be. The breed choice was 1. American Type because there were many stored Akita samples from previous collections; 2. Blend, Other because there were blends interested in the test and rescues with no pedigrees with SA and VKH who wanted to help the research; and 3. Japanese Type last because a spokesperson for JACA said they wouldn't participate and VGL didn't expect the large response from JAs in other countries. Why are you complaining about that? It's not a ranking in any way.
So you might want to go easy on the lies comment. But it is clear that you had a hand in the definition of the breeds and controlling where the samples went. Just like I would have with my kits if we ended up going in on this. I cannot tell people "hey do this test" if they have reservations because of who is involved with it. Lots of people like the test being done by UCD so it's not a knock against them. I found the staff to be very nice and informative.
People need an apples to apples test. The best way to do that is to run multiple studies and let people compare the results. Lastly JackBurton is my screen name.