Pooping and Peeing at the same time?
I talked to the vet yesterday and he thought that it was behavioral. Google does not give much help beyond recommending a trip to the vet.
Ajax is a 10 month intact male. He has had no other signs of incontinence with the exception of being an excited pee-er up until about 7 month old. Super easy to potty train. Hates his own poop. As a puppy he wouldn't retrieve a toy that landed near his own poo. Now he won't even poo in the backyard (or pee for that matter. It's very odd. He loves marking.) Very picky about where he poops. First time that I saw this was when he was about 4 months old in a mall parking lot. He didn't want to go potty even though I had walked him to some grass and ended up pooping and peeing at the same time on the way back to the car. Off course when he does this he pees all over himself.
It has been increasing in frequency for the last couple months and now it's not unusually for him to do this at last once a day. I've been trying to encourage him mark everything before he poops, but he seems to need a completely empty bladder to prevent peeing on himself. I've seen him pee on himself when pooping after: marking a lot first, squatting to pee earlier in the walk, and even after pooping and peeing on himself once already!
We typically take him out once in the morning, lunch, and evening.
I'm afraid that restricting water could cause prostate problems, but I'm out of ideas.
Any thought? How do I fix this?
Ajax is a 10 month intact male. He has had no other signs of incontinence with the exception of being an excited pee-er up until about 7 month old. Super easy to potty train. Hates his own poop. As a puppy he wouldn't retrieve a toy that landed near his own poo. Now he won't even poo in the backyard (or pee for that matter. It's very odd. He loves marking.) Very picky about where he poops. First time that I saw this was when he was about 4 months old in a mall parking lot. He didn't want to go potty even though I had walked him to some grass and ended up pooping and peeing at the same time on the way back to the car. Off course when he does this he pees all over himself.
It has been increasing in frequency for the last couple months and now it's not unusually for him to do this at last once a day. I've been trying to encourage him mark everything before he poops, but he seems to need a completely empty bladder to prevent peeing on himself. I've seen him pee on himself when pooping after: marking a lot first, squatting to pee earlier in the walk, and even after pooping and peeing on himself once already!
We typically take him out once in the morning, lunch, and evening.
I'm afraid that restricting water could cause prostate problems, but I'm out of ideas.
Any thought? How do I fix this?
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Two months later, when Cuchulainn was the same age (also about 10 months, btw), he started doing it!
Now that Toutarou is a year and change and he seems to have stopped, so I'm hoping it's a developmental stage of weirdness of some kind? I keep doing the same things with Cu that I suggested with Toutarou - cleaning him off, etc. We also take lots of walks which sometimes helps cut down on the issues of peeing and pooping at the same time.
As an aside, none of my Kishu will go in the yard if THEY think it has "too much" poop in it. I have to clean poop daily because of the dog load in the household. Nami will be the first one to start holding it. Fionna is next, then TK (Shikoku) and Cuchulainn. The Labrador will always go to the bathroom in the yard. I dunno if that's a primitive/Japanese dog thing or a personality thing...
I think he'll grow out of it. Don't restrict water, but if you are only taking him out 3 times a day, you might want to add a few short pee breaks and keep encouraging appropriate marking.
I know it's messy, but if he's comfy doing it, I would let it happen naturally. If you react (i.e. shout), I think it'll create more fear issues and make it even harder for him to feel comfy enough to pee/poop. He will prob grow out of it in time!
Sometimes jogging/running/switching pace on walks will encourage bowel movements I find.
As for picky poop spot,I think that's a common NK trait.
Taiki, 5 month Shikoku, does the poop/pee combo. Pretty much every time he poops. We clean him up every time so it's not a big deal, but some times I lift him up and it's just... ugggh...
So, @Ajax, did he grow out of it? His cousin Taiki also happy-pees and marks like crazy!
Toutarou and Cuchulainn both grew out of it. They're both 2 years old and have finally figured out how to pee properly. Toutarou took longer than Cuchulainn.
Jesse
Edited to add- Tochi also seems to purposefully hold his pee in so that he can mark on as many things as possible. It’s unfortunate when he tries to poop before marking and empties a full bladder on himself. Sometimes makes me wish I had gotten a girl instead!
It feels like mission accomplished when he has nothing to pee but air at the end of a walk!
I've had two dogs who would poop and pee at the same time. One was my service dog, who was taught to potty on command; over the years I rewarded for pooping and peeing faster and faster until eventually, I could just say "Do your thing!" and she'd poop and pee at the same time. That was obviously trained though. The other dog is one I adopted at 2 years old. He ends up peeing and pooping at the same time usually if he's been holding his pee for a while or he drank a lot of water beforehand.