Was this one of you? Dog Whisperer techniques on a Shiba...
I was curious to try and do some internet searches on the Dog Whisperer episodes that contained Shiba Inus and I came across this:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Cesar-Milan-Dog-Training-the-Dog-Whisperer
I also concur with this persons findings (especially the Alpha roll, as I found out the hard way).
Again, I'm just curious if this was one of the fellow forum members that created this entry.
Jesse
http://hubpages.com/hub/Cesar-Milan-Dog-Training-the-Dog-Whisperer
I also concur with this persons findings (especially the Alpha roll, as I found out the hard way).
Again, I'm just curious if this was one of the fellow forum members that created this entry.
Jesse
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The worrying thing though, is the poll at the bottom of the page. 75% think he's "Mostly good for dogs" whereas only 19% think he's "Mostly bad for dogs". :-/
His book is in the bookstore on campus, and there was a poster of him in the computer lab in the library with a dog that said 'READ!'
http://hubpages.com/hub/Popular-Cesar-Milan-Topics
While I may not agree with everything she's found, I'm for the most part in agreement with her and am enjoying reading through the entries.
Jesse
I'm not sure if it's available in outside of Canada, but has anyone seen Brad Pattison's show (At the end of my leash)? He is a pretty extreme guy but he's very popular here and apparently he is a top notch trainer and brilliant handler. He does a lot of ambilicle(sp?) stuff where you strap the dog to your waist for a couple hours a day around the house, and do stuff like weve in and out of obstacles while you're out walking, the idea being to get the dog to focus on you. Several shiba owners around here went to his seminar and were very impressed.
I guess the bottom line is the best thing anyone can do is read as much as they can and develop they're own happy medium on what they are comfortable with. No can ever go wrong with more information right!?!?
I read the monks of new skete puppy book a couple of weeks ago, and Caeser seems to be in the same realm as them, from what I can tell.
Cesar knows his dogs well and he himself handles things accordingly (for his own dogs) knowing when to step in. However, I am NOT comfortable with how he conveys what is going on to the general public. His explanations are weak and the show seems to stretch the miracles of what is being accomplished. He has evolved some as a trainer over time but I am still uncomfortable with the dominance theory which he espouses, and how to work through some of the reactive behaviors of his guest canines, specifically using snapping leash corrections and roll overs. There are better and more sound ways to deal with specific behavior problems. In many cases I think he is causing more trauma then eliminating it.
However, if nothing else though he has gotten America's attention about dogs needing training.
As mentioned in the article/blogg etc. Aggression begets aggression and with the spitzy breeds it is best to be a benevolent leader in the majority of cases. Jessica posted a good discussion on this just yesterday or day before. On this forum you can search on behavior and I think you can bring it up that way.
I believe it is important for anyone to take a look at the leading theories of behaviorists such McConnell, Pryor, Dunbar, and trainer Miller when developing a framework for their own dogs. There is a book list on the forum to help out as well. Read and really think about what is going on. When you view Ceasar also view with the sound off. Don't let too much chatter confuse you when you really look at the interactions occurring during his show. Learning body language is a huge skill set to master. Getting the scoop through professional behaviorists who have developed their skill set over many years and several species can only build a strong foundation for each pet owner if they take into account the best practices reiterated through the literature and backing it with sound positive motivation class.
Thanks Jesse for bringing this link to everyone's attention.
Snf
i have looked at the links on this great post and they are really great and informative, i have a question regarding leads, i have been using just a collar and lead with my shiba however recently bought a 'slip rope' type collar (the ones Cesar uses on the program) to try and make it easier with the side jerk technique he uses, to avert the dogs attention, however after reading some of the material i am wondering if this a safe coller to use, my dog doesnt really pull me along so we are now walking with a loose leash, but does anyone think one leash is better than another with shibas?
A harness is great if your dog behaves well on lead, but they don't allow leash corrections like a collar does. You could try the "easy walk" harness from Premier Products. It connects to the leash in the front of the dog's chest (as opposed to their back) which enables you to redirect their body much more easily than a standard harness.
IMO Cesar is marketing products for his own type of dog he deals with most, not shibas. Shibas have unique shape and structure that requires careful attention to how collars and halters fit.
Dibbs... collar pops and snaps can cause health issues with Shibas. I have seen too many with trachea problems. Shibas have a high drive and strong chest assisting with forward momentum. Thus their leverage causes issues when training with a choke chain when it is snapped back and misaligning the spine. Seek and alternative method with a halter aided with techniques via a good trainer. Start with someone who can give advice on clicker training. Physical force is something that should be avoided, instead use of motivation is best to get the behaviors you want.
Snf
PS: I forgot to mention, with the easy walk harness, don't forget to keep a regular collar and tags on the dog even if you use the harness. It is always best to have some form of ID as a just in case measure.
The star of the Emmy-nominated hit series "Dog Whisperer" brings his magic and wisdom about dogs and dog psychology to this unique live special event. Fans of the show and dog lovers alike will be immersed in Cesar's world for three compelling hours, as the best-selling author of Cesar's Way reveals his secrets to happier, healthier relationships between humans and their canine companions. Participants will come to understand how people can inadvertently play a role in their dog's behavioral "issues"; but also, how to change this dynamic by learning how to see the world through a dog's eyes. Using his gift as an educator and entertainer plus state-of-the-art multimedia to illustrate his unique concepts and ideas.- and most importantly, his famous "calm-assertive energy" - Cesar keeps audiences spellbound as he opens them up to amazing new insights about man's best friend - and also, about themselves. See how Cesar’s "fulfillment formula" changes lives as he works to make the world a better place... one dog at a time. No dogs, other than service dogs, are permitted at the seminar.
$24 for the cheap seats - $249 guarantees a meet and greet with Cesar, no dogs allowed other than service dogs.
*gag*
$20k - bail
Being able to beat the shizzle out of America's "hero" priceless :P
And I'm quite proud of not knowing how much bail should be :P
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I just wanted to add to SnF's PS - With our dogs we are able to keep their normal martingale collar attached to the leash AND attach the easy walk harness to the leash. This helps us feel safer in case the got out of one. Kaia has been able to easily move her little paw right out of the easy walks [not that she needs an easy walk anyway]. So we were happy that we had her collar on too and attached when she did that the first time.
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Brad - I would love to see Ahi violate as well.
I keep trying to teach my mom why he is so volatile...Any tips?
Jesse