Collars?

edited December 2008 in General
Ok, something that's always confused me...

There are SO many different types of collars out there! Which do you guys use for your nihon ken?


Martingale? Buckle? Buckle-Martingales? Break~Away? etc.

Leather? Nylon? Cotton? etc.


I once read that the martingale types are best for Shibas, as they can easily slip out of regular collars. [ something about their necks being the same size as their head? ] If true, does this apply to all the nihon ken?

Do you guys walk your pups with the collar & leash or do you use the harness & leash? Do you have the collar on, even when they're in the house? [ I know not in the crate ]

Do the collars effect the dog's fur on their neck?


Sorry for all the questions & random thread, just been confused about this for a while. lol ~
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  • edited November -1
    Toby wears his collar all the time, theres always that chance he can get out. It does kinda effect the fur on the neck, but I do take off his collar every few days and scratch his neck and let him run around without his collar on. :)

    Toby just has a normal collar, he has a premier collar, with the black snap together buckle thing. ( and he has never slipped out of it )

    He never goes on walks with his collar, he nearly chokes himself. He wears his collar, but he usually wears his gentle leader harness ( premier ) or his approach pack ( ruffwear ). ;)
  • edited December 2008
    Mika used to have a regular collar that she never slipped out of. However, there isn't much chance of her getting out where I live and I didn't like how the collar effected her fur underneath so I opted to not make her wear a collar since she always scratches at it anyway.

    I use the harness for walks and potty breaks as Mika will take off running full speed after she poops and she also chases leaves while running full blast. She has gotten choked up in a collar doing this before so I felt the harness was the safest route. I hope this helps!
  • edited November -1
    I have both Bella and Nola on chain martingale collars. Bella has slipped out of a regular buckle collar several times. I leave their collars on pretty much all the time since it has their ID tags on it. The small martingale collars have not messed with their fur, but the thicker invisible fence collar has broken the fur around Bella's neck. However, we take the collar off at night, and when she is at home alone. Nola (since she is still training with the fence) only has her collar on when we go outside.

    Depending on what kind of walk we go for will determine if we walk them on the collars or on a harness. Regular walks we usually just keep them on the collars. But for strenuous walks and hikes we put them on the harnesses.
  • edited November -1
    Pong has a buckle collar for when she steps outside, at daycare (required), or at my parents' office. She doesn't wear one at home because it messes up her fur. Also, she shakes a billion times a day if she has it on. I recently bought her a easy walk one for walking because she pulls a lot and she's really good with it. She hates the thing to death but she doesn't pull as hard.

    My dad vow never to use it and instead rather to run with (or after) her when she pulls. Sigh.. she gets SPOILED when she goes to my parents house.
  • edited November -1
    Thanks guys, always super helpful <3



    [ & Jenny, Pong's allowed to be spoiled! :p ]~
  • edited November -1
    Okay, I have a cotton collar with nylon backing that is a buckle collar. Jazz wears this always. The only time she is without her collar is in the bath. I use her harness to clip her leash to as it is a better balance and keeps her from pulling against her neck.
  • edited November -1
    If you are concerned about collars affecting fur, you can minimize the effect with a rolled leather collar. You'll still get some noticeable affect, but it is much less pronounced.

    Lucy and Joey both have nylon martingale collars (hope to upgrade to leather some day). Lucy's is 100% nylon and Joey's is a chain. They only wear them when we leave the house. I have both regular harnesses for them and easy walk harnesses for them. Joey's easy walk just arrived a day before we left town for the holiday's so I haven't tried it, but Lucy HATES hers and will make me chase her around the house if she thinks I'm going to put it on her.
  • edited November -1
    Belle hates (and I mean HATES) wearing a harness... she won't even budge if she it on... so she has a regular buckle collar. The monster... she has a GREAT Cloth/Chain Martingale, which is perfect for her. The last buckle collar she had, she broke through - plastic just didn't stand up to her Shiba strength ;o) I've tried her with a few different harnesses, but she always seems to whine/complain that the armpit area hurts. Maybe she's just not used to it?

    I really do hate that the collar breaks her fur around her neck, BUT it contains so many tags that NEED to be on her in case of an escape, I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
  • edited November -1
    Beebe wears a rolled leather collar nearly always, if we are camping or hiking she has her ruffwear gear to wear (pack or harness) or the premier walking harness. She never tries to duck her collar and recalls anyways.

    If you show, the dog should wear a rolled leather and there are some rolled leather collars with fine chain link martingale features that I like. Ike wears a rolled collar, but he has slipped this very easily by putting his breaks on while I keep walking so he gets to wear a martingale in leash combo or show lead now if we are outside walking. This helps us avoid the "ring around the neck" that you would get from a heavier chain martingale or nylon buckle while still keeping him safe. Everything else damages the coat, but unless you show, the chain link martingale or harness or best I think.
  • RyuRyu
    edited November -1
    Ryu wears a cotton buckle collar 24/7 with his ID tags. He wears harnesses on hikes, car trips, at daycare and when he needs to "take a chill break" (they tend to calm him down a bit). He will NOT wear a nylon harness, used to only wear the puppia harness but now I can get him to wear a cotton harness with no problems. I think the heaviness of the nylon just restrained him too much and he wouldn't budge. Sometimes, he'll wear a collar and harness all day if we forget to take it off.

    When she was with me, Chloe wore a buckle collar and harnesses every single day. She slipped out of her regular collar in a microsecond one day so I put the harness on and never took it off. Except for naked time of course. I never felt comfortable with her on just a collar after that day.

    Roxy wears a cotton/chain martingale. She jerks back and tries to shimmy her way out of the collar but she hasn't escaped. She also wears a harness during most walks and car trips. I like the cotton martingales because they have *some* give so when she jerks, she gets a tiny bit of slack compared to nylon.
  • edited November -1
    Tetsu and Tikaani both wear nylon belt buckle (not clasp) type collar when out of the crate. When we went collar shopping, we tried the collars on their necks and lightly tugged it with the loop to see if it would come off over their heads.
    With the Christmas gift cards we received, I got Tetsu a plain Nylon store brand harness since he pulls on walks enough to hack. He hates it, but for now he won't pull as much with it. When Tikaani is done growing, we are going to order a dual sled/ walking harness. The sled type harness has the cushioning and lower cut in the chest, so pulling is less harmful for the dog. the straps behind the armpits are also further back, so there is less chest irritation. We are in the process of giving verbal commands for loose leash walking, but when they see something they want, there's no stopping them.

    Often times, you'll see Martingales on Greyhounds because of their neck to head ratio. From what I've heard, these collars are not used as correction, such as the use of the choke chain, but some will use it as such. They are supposed to be used to prevent slip off, but you have to be careful how it fits your dog as it might be harmful it not worn properly.
  • edited November -1
    Miso and Sake enjoy their naked time in the house when we are home. During the day when we are at work they just wear their regular nylon buckle collars with their tags. For walks they both have Puppia harnesses with tags on them so I usualy just use those and not the collars as well. Miso LOVES his puppia harness and will wear it all day/night if I forget to take it off with no complaints...the drama queen (aka Sake) on the other hand SCREAMS the minute we get back from walking..."MOM, we are so DONE, take this darn thing OFF NOW!".

    It's pretty cute.
  • edited November -1
    Jazz's harness is a Puppia one (I forgot to mention that) - she wears it all the time, as well (except for random naked time). I find it doesn't seem to rub under her legs like many of the other harnesses. It was also the only style harnesses that Jazz didn't do a dead dog flop in.
  • edited November -1
    Sake does the dead dog flop in hers still...she is just getting used to it though.
  • edited December 2008
    I think you got a pretty good idea of what is used and what works.

    I'm just going to add that proper leash training is vital or you will have a heck of a time walking a dog in a harness... think about it, naturally, they are going to want to pull... but I think for good long walks and especially hikes, a harness is the way to go.

    Martingales are the safest method for a dog that is known to slip a regular collar. Pressed down neck fur is much more desirable then a lost nihon ken! Having said that, Hanzo is older and has the 3 legs so he doesn't ever try to pull out of his collar, he wears a regular buckle collar for pottying and a padded harness for walks.

    All the equipment we use for walking is nylon

    Also, both of my shibas wear a cotton slip on (no buckle) collar for their info tag 24/7.
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  • edited November -1
    Thanks guys very muchly! I feel enlightened :)


    One more question, for when you guys say your pups where some sort of collar 24/7, does that include in the crate? I was always taught dogs shouldn't have collars on in the crate as it can catch & they can get strangled, is that true?



    Oh & broken neck fur over lost nihon ken any day! lol ~
  • edited November -1
    I didn't let Keiko wear her collar in her crate for a while, and I'm still a little paranoid about it, but I've honestly never seen her (or any dog I've owned) have their collar/tags hooked on anything. I'm SURE it can happen (hence the paranoia) but she fights with me if I want to take it off, so I've resorted to trusting that she'll be ok in the crate.

    Honestly... I don't like to leave it on...
  • edited November -1
    They can slip the rolled leather collars pretty easily, so I don't worry too much about leaving those on while they are crated.
  • edited December 2008
    I usually take their collars with their tags off in the crate. Im a nervous nelly about things like that. My kids are rarely crated though, so they have collars on most of the time.
  • edited November -1
    I leave Bella's collar on all the time (except for bath time) because she has free run of the house and is never crated unless we stay somewhere overnight. Nola throws a fit if I take her collar off (Bella actually does the same thing). I am not sure why they dislike not having their collars on. Maybe they feel they no longer belong to us??? I have no idea. So I just leave Nola's on when she is in her crate. It does not have any dangly tags on it, so I feel safe leaving it on.
  • edited November -1
    Some dogs just don't like being naked. I tell Beebe "Put it on. Put your necklace on" and she will shove her head in to whatever collar I am holding up. Ike on the other hand falls over on his side and does a little summersault thingy whenever I show him his collar and tell him to put his neckalce on. He must think necklaces are for girls.
  • edited November -1
    LOL Lindsay.

    My kids love being Naked. They hate their collars, but Miso knows his harness means walk time so when that comes out he gets really excited. He sits and lets me put it on him but his whole body shakes while I am doing it because he is so happy. Sake hates her harness still.
  • edited November -1
    Haha... Bella could care one way or the other about her harness. But Nola... She goes absolutely NUTS for her harness. If I even open the cabinet where it is kept (which we keep all the puppy supplies, brush, meds, dremel tool) and something metal rattles, she starts doing her happy dance and running up and down the stairs to the door. She will hardly stay still long enough for me to put it on. Harness means car ride... which means visiting or hiking. Of course, she gets excited about most anything... so I should not be too surprised. Bella... she just goes with the flow.
  • edited November -1
    I leave the cotton slip on collars on while Tsuki and Kitsune are in their crates, they are rarely crated more than 1-2 hours a day and the collars are designed to loosen if pulled so the dog can slip them. They have no leash hooks or anything, they are just flimsy tag collars.
  • edited November -1
    toby wears a snap collar, but we take it off every night and let him keep it off till we wake up. the noise for the tags echos through the apt. im not sure heloves his collar but he loves being scratched when we take it off:)
  • edited November -1
    My pups all wear rolled leather collars. It causes minimal fur damage and it's not that visible when it is on, so it gives a more "naked" look. I like the way the pups look without the collar, but I'm too paranoid of them running off with no ID, not to mention it's nice to have a handy place to grab the dogs if need be.

    There are "fur-saver" collars that aren't supposed to damage the fur at all. I don't know how well they work, plus they're the "choke" kind of collar. I'm thinking you could put a latch or ring on it to make it non-choke and have it just hold ID, then have a collar for the leash or a leash with a collar built in.
  • edited November -1
    well i could keep toby collar off all the time. he has a chip in the back of his neck incase someone tries to take him he can be scanned and found. but i would rather he keep it on just in case.
  • edited December 2008
    We FINALLY got Keikos liscence in the mail today!! .. that's great news for me, but it meant she had to have her collar taken off so I could attach it... OMG I can't even explain the struggle!!!

    She got to spend a couple naked hours while I tried to get the darn tag attached... a few of those house were spent with her nose in my 'business'! Gotta love the lil peanut :o)
  • edited November -1
    I hate those rings for the tags-finger biters. Sounds like Keiko had a good evening :)
  • edited November -1
    Thanks guys! :D


    SO helpful! I've learned something new now moihahaha It just means I'm that much closer ;) ~
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