Orijen's new Protein!!?!

tsukitsunetsukitsune
edited May 2009 in Food, Nutrition, & Health
I've heard in the foodie world that Orijen is soon set to release a new formula featuring.....

Buffalo....

and....

BOAR!

How crazy awesome is that? Does anyone know concrete info? I'm only hearing rumors from an ad in "Modern Dog"!

Comments

  • WrylyBrindleWrylyBrindle
    edited November -1
    "boar" sounds better than "pork", doesn't it?
    I will be interested to know how they source the meat.

    My Lunar zodiac animal is the Boar, and I sure prefer saying I am a Metal Boar rather than a Tin Pig...
    :)
  • BradA1878BradA1878
    edited November -1
    Oh, wow, that's cool. Boar is perfect for Shika Inu!

    Too bad we just switched the dogs to "Now!" since Orijen and Acana is so hard to get in NM.

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  • tsukitsunetsukitsune
    edited May 2009
    Yeah, the sourcing will be interesting to see. Word is they only will release it in Canada, but I can't find concrete info anywhere... and Champion Pet Foods isn't so great getting back to emails asking what zea mays is exactly..
    But my thoughts exactly "wow! perfect for a shika!"

    Now! is a pretty decent food! We feed their turkey/duck treats occasionally. I just ordered a small bag of Acana grain free fish to try.
  • lindsaytlindsayt
    edited November -1
    Wow, that's interesting. There must be a ton of wild boar running around somewhere creating a disturbance in large enough numbers to make it profitable to put them into dog food. Sounds perfect for shikoku, maybe a little fattier for them because all those shikoku on here are sure porkers ;)
  • Darwin67Darwin67
    edited November -1
    I've been feeding Kahlo Acana Grasslands and am now moving her to Acana's Pacifica (fish)...so far, Acana has been a really good food for her. The Boar sounds interesting, and I think I would definately look into it if they end up selling here in Washington.
  • TeamLaikaTeamLaika
    edited November -1
    Well, it sounds fanciful that is for certain...but I am skeptical of US populations of wild boar in masses making it financially feasible to put in dog food. They would need to be raised in captivity to some degree.

    I suspect that they might just use domestic boar since the US palate does not enjoy the 'taint' of meat from uncastrated male pigs.

    Persons who own dogs with legitimate food allergies are soon going to be up a creek with all these 'novel' protein diets blasting through the mainstream market-place. The little lamb led the way...
  • lindsaytlindsayt
    edited November -1
    Yeh, that's what I was thinking in regards to my 1 allergy dog who is on the Orijen fish but had been eating little lammies for no particular reason until her GI tract objected. I hadn't especially sought the lamb, it just happened to be the protein in the puppy food of this brand I was dead set on.

    Before all of the what once were unique diets, like beaver, pheasant and kangaroo, there was only lamb commercially available to most folks. I see some eel now, and all kinds of truely novel proteins that folks are home preparing like reindeer and antelope. I hope I haven't limited my future options by feeding lamb at one point. I honestly don't know where to find reindeer :)
  • tsukitsunetsukitsune
    edited November -1
    I talked to the manager of our local holistic pet store, he just started to get in Orijen 6 Fish... He said they sent him some literature and I can look at it (I'm going there today after work) and it's wild boar, berkshire pig, salmon, some other fish and bison.

    Novel, sure, but exciting nonetheless. Though, based on their protein levels and other ingredients, I might not get to try it with my shibas...

    Elk and antelope are too yummy, I'm not sure I'd share with my pups :)
  • PLwarped59PLwarped59
    edited November -1
    I was looking at Orijens website and heres what I found,

    ORIJEN’s REGIONAL RED is a Biologically Appropriate food that replicates the same rich and diverse balance of fresh meats, fruits, vegetables and grasses that dogs would encounter in their natural environment.

    Loaded with premium red meats, ORIJEN’s REGIONAL RED is made with high inclusions of wild boar, lamb, heritage pork and bison—all raised ‘free-range’ within our region, passed ‘fit for human consumption’ and delivered FRESH each day.

    Free of inappropriate grains and carbohydrates, ORIJEN’s REGIONAL RED features regional fruits and vegetables including russet potatoes & black currants from local prairie farms, apples & cranberries from the interior orchards, and organic sea vegetables from the North Pacific tidal range.

    Caught off Vancouver Island, fresh (never frozen) salmon provide a superb source of Omega-3 (DHA and EPA) that support a vibrant skin and hair coat,—your dog's outer symbol of health and vitality.

    Bridging the gap between good nutrition and peak health, ORIJEN’s veterinarian selected botanicals include sweet fennel, dandelion root & peppermint leaf—all of which mirror the natural instinct to forage for grasses and weeds while serving to nourish and tone the digestive tract.

    Made exclusively in our award-winning, family-owned factory, ORIJEN’s REGIONAL RED is a natural and delicious way to assure the peak health of your dog—no matter what his breed or size.
  • tsukitsunetsukitsune
    edited November -1
    Thanks!

    I wonder if the protein/calcium levels will still be the same as their other foods? Probably..
  • PLwarped59PLwarped59
    edited June 2009
    ORIJEN REGIONAL RED
    GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
    Crude Protein (min.) 38.0%
    Crude Fat (min.) 18.0%
    Crude Fiber (max.) 3.0%
    Moisture (max.) 10.0%
    Calcium (min.) 1.7%
    Calcium (max.) 1.9%
    Phosphorus (min.) 1.2%
    Phosphorus (max.) 1.4%
    *Omega-6 (min.) 3.0%
    *Omega-3 (min.)
    *DHA
    *EPA 0.8%
    0.5%
    0.2%
    *Carbohydrate (max.) 22.0%
    *Glucosamine (min.) 250 mg/kg
    *Chondroitin (min.) 100 mg/kg
    *Microorganisms (min.) 120M cfu/kg

    INGREDIENTS
    • Fresh deboned wild boar, fresh deboned lamb, lamb meal, russet potato, fresh deboned pork, peas, salmon meal, whitefish meal*, herring meal, fresh deboned bison, fresh whole eggs, potato starch, fresh deboned salmon (a natural source of DHA and EPA), alfalfa, sweet potato, fresh deboned walleye, salmon oil (naturally preserved with vitamin E and citric acid), pea fiber, psyllium, pumpkin, tomatoes, carrots, apples, cranberries, Saskatoon berries, black currants, chicory root, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile flowers, dandelion, summer savory, rosemary, organic kelp, vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, niacin, zinc proteinate, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, vitamin B5, iron proteinate, vitamin B6, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12, selenium, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product.

    :)
  • tsukitsunetsukitsune
    edited November -1
    LOL, I should have just went to the website, huh? :)

    The protein is slightly lower, which is great. The ingredients look awesome!


    Thanks for posting!
  • ShikokuSpiritShikokuSpirit
    edited November -1
    Sounds interesting. I'm always looking for new quality grain-free brands to add in my rotation.

    The pet store I go to buy my foods for my animals didn't orginally sell Orijin. The other day I saw both Orijin and Acana!
  • tsukitsunetsukitsune
    edited November -1
    My favorite dog food store is also starting to carry Orijen.. not Acana yet though :(
  • CrimsonO2CrimsonO2
    edited November -1
    My local store just started carrying Acana, along with Orijen. I'm going to keep my eye out for this new flavor from my online and/or local suppliers:).

    Jesse
  • HeatherHeather
    edited November -1
    Would you guys recommend Orijen or Acana more? I feed EVO but it is not recommended for puppies, and alas I will have to get my shiba a different brand! How much are they each in price? I cannot find a price on the internet! I think I asked this somewhere.. not sure if I got a reply! Thanks.
  • Darwin67Darwin67
    edited November -1
    I think it depends on the need of your dog...Acana and Orijen are made by the same manufacturer. One of the reasons I like these two lables specifically is because Canada is so much stricter in maintaing oversight over pet food manufacturing...far more than the U.S.

    I found this comparison between the two to help shed the differences. We put Kahlo on the Acana because she is far lower energy than say a Shiba.

    While there are many differences between ACANA and ORIJEN, both diets reflect our belief in “Biologically Appropriateness, and “Fresh Regional Ingredients”.

    Five of the main points of difference are summarized below:

    MEAT CONCENTRATION: ORIJEN is made with 70-75% meat ingredients while ACANA has between 40 to 65%, depending on the formula.
    AMOUNT OF PROTEIN: ORIJEN diets range between 38% and 42% protein, while ACANA features protein levels of 29-34%.
    AMOUNT OF CARBOHYDRATE: ORIJEN diets range from 18-22% of carbohydrate, while ACANA diets are typically in the 28-30% carbohydrate range.
    AMOUNT OF FRESH MEAT: ORIJEN is made with 28-33% of fresh meats, compared with ACANA which ranges from 9-15% of fresh meats.
    VARIETY OF FRESH MEAT: ORIJEN contains a minimum of 5 fresh meats, compared to ACANA which contains 3 different fresh meat ingredients.
  • tsukitsunetsukitsune
    edited November -1
    I like to stay in the 30-34% protein range, because while my adult shibas are high energy, they aren't performance dogs that require that much protein as in EVO, Orijen.. Our raw diet usually is closer to the 26-29% protein, so a kibble relatively close to that is what we like to use when we do kibble trials.

    Acana Provincial states "all life stages" (ALS) on their packaging. Orijen does not.

    You'll want to really investigate labels and ingredients, and not just assume because it says ALS that it is OK for a puppy or younger dog of either a small or large breed. I do know that neither Canidae ALS or EVO are appropriate for a large breed dog until after 18 months. They are much too high in calcium, particularly EVO. With a puppy, with information I've found here and there and everywhere, it seems you want to keep the calcium under 4.5

    Here is a site for small breed dogs (some large breed foods aren't listed that would work like Solid Gold Wolfcub), but you can see what is in many ALS foods on the market.
    http://members.cox.net/starsen/CALCIUMDRY.html

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    It's interesting, this thread.. I'm currently doing massive research on the benefits of raising a pup right at weening age on raw vs. growth patterns on appropriate kibbles (meaning safe/accurate per breed size levels of protein, calcium, phosphorous). Its really not an easy task to pick out a kibble I'm comfortable with raising a puppy on. I might not even raise a pup for years to come, but I am really entertaining the idea of raising a pup on raw instead of kibble. It's interesting stuff!
  • CrimsonO2CrimsonO2
    edited November -1
    FYI, thought I'd put an update on this. Ichi is bored with the Orijen Fresh Fish so we switched him to the Orijen Regional Red. He's cleaning his bowl at every feeding (2x a day)! You guys know how skinny he is so I'm quite pleased with Orijen Red because he's excited about eating it and he can stand to gain a few more pounds on his skinny frame!

    Jesse
  • tsukitsunetsukitsune
    edited November -1
    Awesome! Let us know how he does in the next few weeks!
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