looking for shiba inu puppies!
hi!
my wife and i are looking to adopt a shiba inu puppy. we are in the orange county area of southern california, please send me a msg ! :)
my wife and i are looking to adopt a shiba inu puppy. we are in the orange county area of southern california, please send me a msg ! :)
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do your homework. make sure a shiba is the right dog for you
find a good breeder to get the dog from. or a repuatable shiba rescue. DO NOT buy from or "adopt" or "rescue" from any pet store.
if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. Everyone on the forum is very helpful and is really concerned about the well being of all the japanese breeds.
joe
Welcome to the forum – here are a few good discussions & articles that might help you out while on the forum. I find these articles (located on the help tab) to be great when researching for a puppy.
How to find a good breeder:
http://www.nihonken.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=720
Introducing new dogs and living in a multi-dog household:
http://www.nihonken.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=826
Dog Food 101
http://www.nihonken.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1665
Your best bet, if you're looking to adopt right away, may be to adopt from a rescue or shelter:
- Pet Finder
- Shiba Rescue
I'd recommend taking a trip to all the shelters near your area, we have many in Orange County and others not so far from. There may be a Shiba that's not listed.
Good luck!
http://www.dogster.com/forums/shiba_inu/thread/630430
The poster, "Faye", lives in OC area and has two breeder dogs. Maybe she can help you out, too?
What led you to the Shiba Inu? And then deciding you want one?
Many of the rescue or shelter Shibas are in there because they have become lost. Also, some really nice dogs have ended up where they shouldn't sometimes through no fault of their own. It is worth it to visit to see them.
Snf
I couldn't help but notice that you didn't have an intro. Do you have other dogs and are hoping to add a Shiba to the pack? What perked your interest in the breed? I'm sure we'd all love to know a bit more about you =0)
Sorry about the intro.. a little bit about my history with dogs:
I have a 9 yr old shih tzu and got interested with the Shiba Inu from a friend of mine who has one :)
I couldn't stress do your research and homework enough. I did my research for nearly two years and I still found myself unprepared. With the breeder, be patience too, don't jump at the first cute puppy you'll see. Good luck.
There's alot of informative shiba inu blogs out there too it kept me busy while I waited and I enjoyed the stories and info on the shiba inu.
These two shiba books are good to read for new shiba inu owners, Shiba Inus (Complete Pet Owner's Manual) by Laura Payton and Shiba Inu (Kennel Club Dog Breed Series) by Andrew De Prisco
Most Shibas don't stay for long in the soCal shelters, thanks to efforts like Michelle Balestrieri of Southern CA Shiba Rescue. I'm constantly amazed at the geographic area she has covered, from San Diego to Lancaster to Moreno Valley. She would be a good person to contact if you are interested in a shelter Shiba but needed a little help with the pulling process. 818-996-6578. Mbalestrieri4@sbcglobal.net
Look at your expectations carefully. Select wisely and look at your objectives and goals to determine why and what you need in a breed of dog. Shibas are not always the best choice as a first time puppy and even if you have raised a pup before the breed may not be what you thought. Certainly look at all options and visit a rescue group or folks at a meet up first.
Snf
Your responce was totally assenine and I really do not appreciate it. Betsy Sako is a practioner of the breeders craft and a dedicated one at that. Those of us who actually give a crap about what we produce tend to care about our dogs stacking up against the worldwide standard and in a favorable light.
For you to suggest that Betsy Sako puts either health or temperment as a low priority is outrageous!
Thanks for the strong reminder why I signed off of this froum in the first place. Assholes like you are simply what I do not need in my life. I offered my suggestion base on YEARS of careful interaction and observation. I DO NOT make recommendations lightly.
Unfortunatley none of that seems to matter to armchair saints who have never produced shit, and never will .
Good luck HTRAM516. My advice is to take as much time as you can and to take the advice of most of these armchair jerkoffs found on this forum with a grain of salt.
The way to tell if this is their priority is to look at the conditions the dogs are kept in, if you can't see the sire and dam then I personally would walk away. They could have a shelf full of trophies, certificates but if you aren't allowed to see the dogs they're breeding and their temperament I wouldn't bother. The breeder we settled for asked us lots of questions about where we'd be keeping our dog, told us we wouldn't be given a dog without signing a contract binding us to spay/neuter (for a pet), why we chose an Akita, whether we'd had experience before and then we met nearly all of their breeding stock, not just the ones who were to be sire/dam of the litter. They have bred many champions, all of their dogs are shown and receive high marks with the many certificates and rosettes to prove it. But a breeder can breed to type without having a champion dog in shows. We chose our breeder because they kept their Akitas as pets and bred for both show standard dogs and appropriately temperamented (which I'm certain isn't a real word) pets.
In terms of helping you find a breeder in your area, I'm afraid I can't help you and whilst I recognise you're looking for a Shiba and I've been talking about Akitas, the standards in terms of their breeders will be the same. If you're just looking for a pet and have the time and energy to put into rescuing a dog then I would recommend it, the only worry I would have is finding a rescue with a temperament suitable for your original pet
Anyway, being as I couldn't help you with locations of a breeder I thought I'd help you with how to find the right one! Good luck and don't forget spam is all important.
edited to note that I have no way of knowing if you knew all this information before hand, if you did and I've been patronising then I apologise!
One can not make assumptions what others know or don’t know, particularly on a large forum like this. Therefore, people post what their experiences are from their own context and one has to take or leave it at that.
It is a fact that too many individuals in the canine “show” world often put too much weight on titles and sometimes not enough on health and temperament. It is important to all to note the biggest ads and a ton of marketing is just that, publicity. No one should think because a breeder is listed in select magazines, akc ads, web pages, praised through word of mouth or wins at any given show be it Beikoku, AKC, UKC, CKC etc that is the final blessing for purchase. Certainly it is important to stay way from mills and pet stores where health and temperament are not consider at all. However, it is up to the buyer to be armed with as much knowledge as possible regardless. There is a lot to consider, look at, and think about and I believe that is what many are trying to get across here.
I think the links provided above, hopefully, should be really helpful for some personal decision making. In my own context I have seen way too much suffering of animals and owners alike. If the purchase decision process can be narrowed through appropriate data gathering by potential new owners beforehand (even if it may appear redundant to some) then maybe more dogs will remain in a life long home as opposed to the concept of borrowed pets or ownership on loan.
Bidding you all adieu
Snf
Instead I get another assenine responce from yet another froum member who seems to have a carte blanche licence to say these types of things.
If any of you think that I would place titles over temperment or overall health I'm sorry but you are retarded!!
I do not appreciate words being put in my mouth nor to appreciate my posts being twisted out of context. I made an innocent reccomendation to a sincere question. I recommended a great breeder and an even better person who happens to produce fine quality Shiba Inu. Betsy Sako is lifetime dedicated to the breed and just a plain kick ass person. I aopologize to her for bringing her name up here.
I should have realized just as I got accused maliciously of malnourishing my dog on here (still with no apology) that the noobs who flood this place wouldn't be worth the time.
It is best to trust ones gut. Lesson learned, believe me.
I'm not sure where all this went, but I would like to bring this thread back to its original topic. Betsy is in the Bay Area, about 6 hour drive from you but is also close to the Oakland Airport if you decide to ship a puppy. Good luck on your search!!!!
NICHIBEI
Betsy Sako
4319 San Pablo Dam Rd,
El Sobrante, CA 94803
510-222-5768 (phone/FAX)
nichibei@sonic.net
P S
Seriously though. With the breeders we saw, we were impressed with the titles and all that. But what really made the deciscion for us though was the lifetime health guarantee and the dogs personality and temperment. Katsu has an over bite and is too much of a chicken to be a show dog. But she is super sweet and great with everyone, dogs, people, and even *gasp* bratty little kids alike. I got caught up in the whole champion line thing at first, but now I just want to see happy and healthy shibas.