Funny enough, the "proper" way to pronounce Gyro (as in the food) is actually YEE-ROE. I was very abruptly corrected when I pronounced it JIE-ROE once. lol
Jiro was the name our old neighbor wanted to give to our first male shiba foster, after adopting Kitsune. She pronounced it for me then, and I've kept the way she said it.
Jiro and Tsuki had some bones together this weekend on the living room floor. He lost interest faster than her, started to snoop out her bone, she growled and he backed off. He is going to be a great addition to a shiba household!
We also got new couches this weekend, and they didn't mess him up one bit (compared to Kitsune who was crying from the change!)
How are he and Kitsu? Things can get sort of touchy fast, but do you think Kitsu will eventually adjust? It just seems like he and your girl are little best friends already. He will make an awesome guy for somebody if you are not keeping him for sure (I'm sort of jealous I don't live over there or else I would want to meet him).
He had to get a 3yr rabies shot this past Thursday, he's schleduled for his neuter for this Thursday
He and Kitsu have small intervals to interact, but Kitsu has been on edge since he's been here, so they walk together on leash and thats about it. Jiro is great about all of it, just still really attentive to Kitsune, which K hates!
Jiro and Tsuki do so great together! I don't think we could keep him forever though, Kitsu would pack his bags!
Kitsune will survive. He's being an all around jerk lately, though.. but then again he usually does have hissy fits for a week or so after a new foster gets here (opposite is Tsuki who's instantly "PARTY! NEW DOG! YEEEEAH!")
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Jiro, letting us know that "life is good"
Tsuki telling Jiro to mind his P's & Q's while she's got the bully stick. He listens nicely.
I think the problem is with Kitsune and not with Jiro, so its hard to say. I'm assuming NO, but I never give up hope that Kitsune will trust and relax eventually.
Actually, Jiro has totally changed my conception of the intact adult male dog. There is nothing broke about him, so I'm never going to call it "fixed" again (as in, he was fixed last week aka neuter). He's stable, he's friendly, he's sociable, he's trainable. He's a wonderful dog and I briefly considered that if we kept him, I'd probably keep him intact. Luckily my other male shiba reminded me that we cannot keep him and therefore he must be neutered because he is a rescue. For me to come to the "not broke" conclusion is huge.. all the incidences I've had with rescues and esp shelter dogs are with intact or newly neutered males. My scars are plenty and they are all from males with all their parts. Jiro just blew my mind and I'm so grateful for what he's taught me!
I have a handout from my Seminar with Suzanne Clothier- in the back she lists some books and urges us all to "think outside the DogWise catalog." One book she recommends, not a dog-specific book, is "The Trouble With Testosterone" by Robert Sapolsky and I quote Suzanne here: "You really ought to understand testosterone before you run around recommending testicle removal as readily as many trainers seem to do despite appalling ignorance on what testosterone does/doesn't do." I haven't read the book, maybe I'll get to it someday- but I admire Suzanne above all other trainers and if she recommends information it must be worthwhile.
What I'll probably read before that one is Sapolsky's other book about the biology of stress ("brilliant exposition of stress, hormones, and what is really happening in fight/flight reactions and more." according to Suzanne) "Why Zebras Dont get Ulcers"- the really short answer is that they experience stress, they act in response and stress is either alleviated or they get eaten- so it never builds up the way it does in domestic society for people and some of our pets.
Thanks for posting that video of Tsuki growling. It was funny and informative. It's cool to know that if the Brat were to growl at him it wouldn't turn into WW3
Great recommendations on the books. Ummm, not sure I buy it in regard to the zebra. Will have to investigate that further in regard to context within the book and species. It is my understanding that impala and some herbivores actually pound out extra hormone in the flight process and for many after a heavy chase their muscles will actually freeze up and within 48 hrs many are dead, the may not get ulcers but they have renal failure. This is why when some animals are moved about at zoos it is done at night (temp aside) or with visual coverage or they are darted.
I have only skimmed a small section of "Zebras..." so I am sure there is much more to it for you to properly consider, esp where you know biology. I am not sure how literal the title is intended to be, either.
I can't get to the things I want to read fast enough, but someone here can benefit sooner!
So after really considering it... we let Jiro and Kitsu have some play time tonight after their walk. They did good! (video uploading..) It was a short session, maybe two minutes until they started to run upstairs. I think we'll start increasing the increments slowly, especially after the neuter. I'm very interested to see what change, if any, is a result of the neuter with either boy.
Jiro and Kitsu really remind me of watching boys in Junior high, all trying to find themselves and you got the one macho one that the insecure one attempts to knock around in order to establish himself, or impress the girl. If they didn't have such bone crushing teeth, I'd think they were pretty comical.
That's awesome Jiro is with you and teaching you a first hand positive perspective about intact males. I LOVE my Ike for all that he is, and that includes being a whole dog, so they aren't aggressive assholes just because they are intact, that can all be bad rearing.
Wow, in that vid you can really see the difference in physique between your two boys!
I walk the three of them in the AM, too.. just me with the three leashes. The boys are fine, in fact they do have pissing contests but its mild I think. Walking Jiro reminds me of my friend's lab puppy.. just big and 'oafy' and wanting to explore and/or pee on everything, compared to fancy Kitsune.
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Jiro was the name our old neighbor wanted to give to our first male shiba foster, after adopting Kitsune. She pronounced it for me then, and I've kept the way she said it.
Jiro and Tsuki had some bones together this weekend on the living room floor. He lost interest faster than her, started to snoop out her bone, she growled and he backed off. He is going to be a great addition to a shiba household!
We also got new couches this weekend, and they didn't mess him up one bit (compared to Kitsune who was crying from the change!)
He and Kitsu have small intervals to interact, but Kitsu has been on edge since he's been here, so they walk together on leash and thats about it. Jiro is great about all of it, just still really attentive to Kitsune, which K hates!
Jiro and Tsuki do so great together! I don't think we could keep him forever though, Kitsu would pack his bags!
Bone sharing:
Jiro, letting us know that "life is good"
Tsuki telling Jiro to mind his P's & Q's while she's got the bully stick. He listens nicely.
Jiro looks like a great find Jen! I'm sure he'll find a new home in no time
Can't wait to meet Jiro, he seems like a happy guy!
I'm really going to miss this guy...
I think the problem is with Kitsune and not with Jiro, so its hard to say. I'm assuming NO, but I never give up hope that Kitsune will trust and relax eventually.
Actually, Jiro has totally changed my conception of the intact adult male dog. There is nothing broke about him, so I'm never going to call it "fixed" again (as in, he was fixed last week aka neuter). He's stable, he's friendly, he's sociable, he's trainable. He's a wonderful dog and I briefly considered that if we kept him, I'd probably keep him intact. Luckily my other male shiba reminded me that we cannot keep him and therefore he must be neutered because he is a rescue.
For me to come to the "not broke" conclusion is huge.. all the incidences I've had with rescues and esp shelter dogs are with intact or newly neutered males. My scars are plenty and they are all from males with all their parts. Jiro just blew my mind and I'm so grateful for what he's taught me!
What I'll probably read before that one is Sapolsky's other book about the biology of stress ("brilliant exposition of stress, hormones, and what is really happening in fight/flight reactions and more." according to Suzanne) "Why Zebras Dont get Ulcers"- the really short answer is that they experience stress, they act in response and stress is either alleviated or they get eaten- so it never builds up the way it does in domestic society for people and some of our pets.
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I can't get to the things I want to read fast enough, but someone here can benefit sooner!
It was a short session, maybe two minutes until they started to run upstairs. I think we'll start increasing the increments slowly, especially after the neuter. I'm very interested to see what change, if any, is a result of the neuter with either boy.
Jiro and Kitsu really remind me of watching boys in Junior high, all trying to find themselves and you got the one macho one that the insecure one attempts to knock around in order to establish himself, or impress the girl. If they didn't have such bone crushing teeth, I'd think they were pretty comical.
Wow, in that vid you can really see the difference in physique between your two boys!
It will be very interesting to see how they react to each other post speuter. They look like they would have SO much fun together.
Walking Jiro reminds me of my friend's lab puppy.. just big and 'oafy' and wanting to explore and/or pee on everything, compared to fancy Kitsune.