Shiba Inu Breeders
This forum was extremely helpful in picking a good breeder. I'd like to try, with all of your help, a breeder list. Where did you get your puppy, how was the breeder, health issues, anything that you think would be helpful to others. I think such a list, used along with some general finding good breeder guidelines,
would be a great help to prospective shiba owners (or pets).
As of right now we only have a deposit down, so as time goes on I'll add more.
Bali Hai Kennel
Ridge, New York
Long Island Area
www.balihai-shibas.com
Kathi and her husband Matt were extremely helpful in informing us about the breed, good and bad. I was impressed with the dogs appearance and their living conditions. Great temperaments for all the dogs, and she was breeding to achieve the standard. Parents were screened for hips/elbows/patellas. Only seems to breed small litters. Champion Pedigrees. AKC registered dogs. NSCA and Shiba Club of Greater New York. So far great experience.
Joe and Dawn
would be a great help to prospective shiba owners (or pets).
As of right now we only have a deposit down, so as time goes on I'll add more.
Bali Hai Kennel
Ridge, New York
Long Island Area
www.balihai-shibas.com
Kathi and her husband Matt were extremely helpful in informing us about the breed, good and bad. I was impressed with the dogs appearance and their living conditions. Great temperaments for all the dogs, and she was breeding to achieve the standard. Parents were screened for hips/elbows/patellas. Only seems to breed small litters. Champion Pedigrees. AKC registered dogs. NSCA and Shiba Club of Greater New York. So far great experience.
Joe and Dawn
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if I was going to go through a breeder in the future for a pup, I wouldn't go through them. Its a personal preference for seeking out a better temperment because I constantly deal with behavior issues in rescue, I'd want a purchased pup to have total health and soundness. And while their dogs are beautiful and healthy and well kept and cared for, they have disheartening behavior issues and that doesn't sit very well with me. Granted, they were adopted as adults and poorly socialized, but my gut feeling is that perhaps the issue is hereditary because sometimes I feel I'm fighting a losing battle with the dogs in my home from Ice Winds.
I also met a couple of breeder dogs when I went to their kennel and they all were very similar to my two from there.
Also, avoid Breeders that don't breed to the breed standard. [ breeders that breed "toy" shibas, cream shibas, etc. ] As if they're not breeding to perfect the breed, then they're in it just for the money.
I haven't got my pup yet, these are things I've just learned along the way [ mostly on this forum
My Shiba puppy was 4lbs at 6 weeks old. At 6 months old, he was 24lbs.
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I am glad that you are doing the research that it takes before bringing a new family member into your home
I ask $1200 for my puppies on spay/neuter contracts. My puppies are examined by my vet at 8 weeks of age, receive a set of puppy vaccs, multiple dewormings and are microchipped before leaving my home. They do not leave my home until they are 10 weeks of age. I do not take deposits as I do not believe in having someone's money for something that is not here. When the puppies arrive then I will take a deposit. It is on a first come, first serve basis.
I certify my dogs for their hips and eyes, as well as have my vet check their knees and hearts. My dogs have wonderful temperaments.
I live in Aspers, PA, which is approx. 15 minutes away from Gettysburg.
From my experience I have found that boys are a little easier to handle than girls. It could be because Shibas have a hierarchy with a girl being the matriarch and the boys being (literally) low dogs on the totem pole... : ) With this in mind, I have found the boys to be somewhat more compliant and willing to please. The girls tend to be a little more independent. Of course, there are exceptions to everything, but for the most part that is what I have learned over the 16 years I have been in the breed.
Whichever sex you decide to get, the most important thing you need to remember is to be CONSISTENT with everything you do with the puppy. You must also make sure, from the very beginning, no matter how cute the puppy is : ), you establish what is and is not acceptable behavior. These are the two key elements to having a happy and productive relationship with a Shiba for the next 14+ years... I tell all of my puppy people you will get out of it what you're willing to put into it. Many people tend to buy Shibas on *impulse* from a pet store because of their size and appeal. The problem here is that they don't know anything about the breed and though they attempt to do the right thing with the puppy, as the puppy matures, it becomes more difficult to deal with and ultimately the puppy will end up in rescue or at the shelter.
I ask my puppy buyers to enroll the puppy in puppy kindergarten/obedience classes and encourage them to go through it more than once. This helps greatly to establish a rapport with the puppy and to help the puppy understand what is expected of it. I also encourage the whole family to participate in these classes, because the puppy needs to understand that all humans are alpha over it, not just the parents. Shiba puppies (and most other puppies as well) view children, especially smaller ones, as their peers and will interact with them as such, instead of seeing them as the alpha.
I hope this helps to give you a little insight into the world of Shibas.
Please let me know if you might be interested in coming down this way for a visit one weekend I would be happy to introduce you to the dogs that we have and to us and also answer any other questions you might have and see if this is the breed for you and your family."
i'd say that this was pretty informative and helpful!
I will not comment on specific breeders, but I will say that anyone looking for ANY breed of dog needs to search the following by parents and cert number etc for medical history. If the breeder you select has not tested their animals or does not retest every 4 yrs or so then move on. Do your homework on the medical search. A CHIC designation for a particular dog is a good sign that they have covered more than one area.... Eyes, & hips, etc etc
http://www.offa.org/
If the breeder you are interested in is not able to supply the ids for the parents to allow a search and omits certification copy of the medical for hips or eyes in a take home folder when you decide to purchase including the vet name, think very carefully before putting your money down. Spiffy marketing, big ads and gushy photos mean nothing, its all fair game when you look on the internet or go to a magazine. No dog should be bred before testing and until somewhere around/after 2 yrs of age.
You as the purchaser can put more pressure on the breed club by requesting that it be standard policy for those listed to make the information available. http://www.shibas.org/
I suggest sticking with NSCA breeders although like any of the Japanese breeds you will probably will need to be placed on a waiting list many months in advance. Nothing about health is a 100% guarantee in life, but reducing the odds is at least half the battle.
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It's a shame... mame shibas are all rage over here in Japan. The general public doesn't know any better, and 80% of dogs here are bought at pet stores (used to be 95% 5 years ago).
For a look at a typical Japanese pet shop (found this on youtube)