Black & Tan Shikoku

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• Chanur Akita

  February 2009 edited November -1

  BT Shikoku...hmmmm
  Or is it a mix Shikoku/Shiba?
  
  But he's beautyful, thanks for the pics!
  :-))
• Edgewood

  February 2009 edited November -1

  Chanur Akita, Katja of Askashima kennels did tell me that there are BT Shikoku that the Japanese breeders have told her about. We were actually discussing the breeding of color genetics in the Shikoku (mainly about the cream) and she said that Japanese breeders had told her that if she has a male Shikoku pup that is BT, she should keep it and use it in breeding to "restore" or "solidify" the color in her lines. They said not approved for showing but good for keeping the color in the lines. FWIW
• Kenshi

  February 2009 edited November -1

  That's interesting about keeping the color in the lines. One thing I would like to hear more about in general, is how Japanese breeding practices for Nihonken differ from AKC type breeding practices.
• tobyshiba

  February 2009 edited November -1

  oh wow, Black and Tan Shikoku are beautiful!
• Chanur Akita

  February 2009 edited February 2009

  Edgewood: thanx a lot for your information.
  I didn't know this color was present on Shikoku Ken, now I know! ;-)
  Thank for learning me, you're so kind!
  :-)))
• KFontaine04

  February 2009 edited November -1

  So pretty....
• Kenshi

  February 2009 edited November -1

  Also, the two little round spots of color above the eyes makes the dog look like a Heian-era cute girl.
• Heidi

  February 2009 edited November -1

  I love B&T shikokus! I want one some day.
• lingmorton

  February 2009 edited November -1

  i can read some kanji and on the blog it does say its a Shikoku.
  its really pretty! love it.
  cant wait to have my shikoku!
• TheWalrus

  February 2009 edited November -1

  In the bloggers first post she talks about how she found a little puppy in a box with a sign on it that said, 'This puppy is a Shikoku-ken, please take care of it.'
  
  So I guess it most probably is a B/T Shikoku. The other B/T pup with it in some of the pictures is a Shiba.
• asia

  February 2009 edited November -1

  I had not realized shikoku came in B&T! Nice pics!
• Nekopan

  February 2009 edited November -1

  More B&T Shikoku...
  
  
  
  
  
  From what I can tell this guy hunts boar with his Shikoku. He has lots of interestingly coloured dogs, they may be mixes or they could just be selectively bred for hunting and not coat and conformation. His site
  
  
  
  
  
• TheWalrus

  February 2009 edited November -1

  Yes, I've talked to this man over the phone a few times. He breeds Shikoku for hunting, not conformation, and has been doing so for many years. Hence all the different colors/types. Some pretty awesome looking dogs tho imo Was trying to plan a trip down to take a look at the pups this hunting season, but was too busy with work to take the time off. Maybe some other time.
• Sangmort

  February 2009 edited November -1

  I personally wouldn't mind having one of his pups. Particularly, the 2nd to last one, always been one of my favorite shikas ever! ~
• Chanur Akita

  February 2009 edited November -1

  Thanx NekoPan for sharing pics!
  It's a plseasure to discover more BT Shikoku!!!
  Ho I love Shikoku ken!!!!
• BradA1878

  February 2009 edited November -1

  Those dogs are interesting, pretty cool.
  
  I think those dogs probably have a little Kai, Kishu, or Hokka in them. While I understand he is not selecting for the standard, and over several generation you could get a result like that even w/o out crossing for all of them to have a short muzzle, more defined stop, and a sickle tail like that I think he has probably mixed them a bit.
  
  Tho, it is interesting if he has not and they are in fact pure Shikoku... And assuming he is selecting for workability, do you think that that means the shorter muzzle and sickle tail are traits that "piggyback" on the genes [traits] that produce better workers, or a higher drive?
  
  If you think about it, of all the Nihonken that are most frequently still used for hunting, the Shikoku is the only one that has a a curled tail. The Kishu, Hokka, and Kai all have sickle tails.
  
  Just a thought... Mixed or not, they are very cool dogs!
  
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• Heidi

  February 2009 edited November -1

  Brad - I have wondered about traits piggy-backing on the curly-tail gene before. I read about a study conducted where foxes were bred over several generations for tameness and the foxes began to be born with curly tails, floppy ears, and spots on them. That tells me that perhaps curly tails are one of the traits associated with a more tame dog. I haven't thought of what trait it might be, specifically, but it could be that the straight tail comes more with being less "domesticated."