Dog not wanting to be inside the house!

edited October 2011 in Behavior & Training
We got Bea (our Shiba) when she was 7. She was pretty much a kennel dog all her life, she was shown in her early years but was kept pretty much as a breeding dog. When we got her she always shown a preference for being outside, especially at night. This was ok during the spring and summertime but now it's getting really cold and started to rain. She refuses to go inside the house (this is followed by A LOT of shiba screaming, whining, crying, scratching. We built a dog house, have a crate AND a pet bed for her, but she refuses to go inside or LIE on any of those things (she seems to be afraid of the dog house) at night. Instead, she lies either on the cold concrete or on the dirt, or under a tree (instead on the covered porch) if it is raining. I don't want her to be cold and maybe I am just being a worrywart but any suggestions on how to get her to sleep in a doghouse/crate/bed (at least that will be warmer than the concrete). She hates it when I close the door to the crate...crying ensues...and I like the option of giving her the option of coming in and out...she loves to hunt at night and our backyard has a lot of nocturnal critters.

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  • I would try retraining her to the crate so she can be in at night. I would be cautious of leaving a small dog like a Shiba outside at night free in the yard due to owls and coyotes. If she really wants to be outside all the time, build a kennel for her to use at night, or retrain her to the crate. I would worry more about predators than about cold. I lined my kennels with rubber stall mats to keep them off concrete. That may be an option.

    There are plenty of breeder Shibas who become accustomed to being outside 24/7. It can be really hard sometimes to get them adapted to life indoors, and it seems to me that their baseline aloof nature combined with life as a kennel dog, only reinforces this behavior if they are not raised with a family inside.
  • @lindsayt--thanks, I will try re-crate train her.
  • Yes, that's a good suggestion. I know how difficult it is, though. At different times of the year, both Shibas will get into their
    "I'm not coming in the house" phase. Toby is in it right now, and he simply won't come in when called. It's very frustrating. Luckily, Toby HATES the rain, so he'll always come in if it starts raining.

    But I don't blame you for worrying, and I do think Lindsay is right....it's too dangerous to leave her out all night (not to mention cold and wet!) if she's not in a kennel or something. (My girl Bel was attacked by coyotes in the yard one night!). So I'd try to get her used to coming in, if possible, or at least get her used to the porch. Is the problem that at night she wants to go out if you bring her in the house and she scratches at the door to go out? In that case she might need to be retrained to the crate, but another option would be to see if you can get her to settle down in another part of the house not near the door, maybe? (Training her to "go to her place" might help with this).

    Or is it that she won't come in once she's out? Bel used to do that a lot, and in her case, she never gets to go outside at night except for on the leash. If that's the case, taking her out on the leash is an option as well.
  • Bea is really something! The problem is when I put her to sleep. She is not allowed in the bedrooms so when I put in "her room" she will scratch, cry, whine for 30min-1 hr. She would finally fall asleep but wake up in a couple of hours, do the same thing. Finally at 4am-ish, she wakes up and goes full on until one of us cannot stand her racket anymore and open the door for her to go outside. This went on for a month before we gave up and said, ok, the days are warming up, she could stay outside. Then she is fine. If I leave her outside, she has no problem. Yea, we tried several different places, all didn't work. She loves being outside and she loves to hunt. Unlike Bel, she will come in just not at night. I probably have to re-crate train her. She is not food-driven except for red bone marrows so it is hard to get her to do anything she does not want to. She loves to be petted so I do a lot of that.
  • Have you tried letting her crate be in your room?
  • @tjbart17--yea that is the thing. She is not allowed in the bedroom. We want our private time to be by ourselves...we don't "hang out" in the bedroom...we do that in the living room. We go to the bedroom when it's bedtime.
  • Hmmm have you tried laying next to her crate in her bedroom to see if that makes her feel comfortable?
  • no i haven't tried that. She knows when it's bedtime. She starts going crazy at the door to be let out when I start shutting off the TV, computers, book.
  • Ahh man that sucks. It would make me feel bad. Us humans have more emotions on these things than the dogs.

    I wish I could give you some magical answer, but I would try going back to the crate. Use a lot of treats and give her positive connections to the crate. That's so easier said than done though.

    Sleeping is actually my one down fault. With my other dogs it seemed so simple, but with the Kais nope. They wanted to do what they wanted to do. Koda was the biggest pain in the ass. There was no way he was going to sleep farther than three feet away from me. No way no how! I totally caved and let him sleep next to my bed. Now since his surgery he is on my bed 100%. I'm probably the worst one to give you advice, but I want to let you know I sympathize with your feelings.
  • edited October 2011
    Woa...thanks for sympathizing! Yea, it looks like the crate it is...better than getting eaten by a coyote or drenched in rain and cold. The fiance says to just leave her alone, she been out in a kennel for 7 years in the desert through, snow, rain, thunderstorms and extreme heat...you can't change her completely around, but I feel so bad for her...because I get so cold! So...I will try the crate outside (which she accepts right now...but I could tell she is not too happy that she is confined...then eventually bring it closer and closer. She definitely works with positive reinforcement, though, of course when she wants to. BTW, glad Koda is doing better... :)
  • Tara, I don't think that's a problem! We always let one or the other dog sleep with us until we got Oskar. Oskar's too big to be in the bed, and I wasn't letting Bel upstairs until her leg healed, so she got used to sleeping downstairs and now prefers it. I'm all about sleeping with dogs! (Well, if I still have room in the bed!)
  • Scored a wooden crate today for $10 thanks to the hub!
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