name help

NanookNanook
edited April 2013 in General
Its been a looon time since I have posted anything but as a reintroduction my name is alyssa and I have a 3 yr old shiba inu named nanook and a 2yr old sphynx named lola. We will be adding another nihon ken a brindle JA female sometime at the end of spring or sometime this yr. if all goes well with the breeding etc.. We picked the name hachisu which from what I saw means lotus flower. My question is does hachisu really mean lotus flower because I saw it on a kanji site but another site is saying something else. Can someone confirm this for me please? P.s. I know its early but we already got a hachisu tag out of excitement even if it may take a while for her.
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  • MapleTwinkieMapleTwinkie
    If you can copy and paste the Kanji that will help.
    What breeder are you getting your JA from?
  • PoetikDragonPoetikDragon
    edited April 2013
    From http://jisho.org/words?jap=hachisu&eng=&dict=edict&romaji=on

    蓮 hachisu
    Out-dated or obsolete kana, Noun
    1: (Usually written using kana alone) sacred lotus (Nelumbo nucifera); Indian lotus; lotus;
    2: rose of Sharon (Hibiscus syriacus)

    Google translate says 蓮 is hasu and means lotus.

    Searching Wikipedia for people named hachisu reveals the kanji 蜂巣 but this means bee hive. (Second result on jisho.org.)

    Keep in mind that the "u" in "su" is swallowed in Japanese, so hachisu is pronounced ha-cheess and hasu is pronounced hass. My dogs Mosura and Angirasu are pronounced moss-ra and an-gee-rass, respectively.
  • NanookNanook
    Kaiju kennel :) we fell in love with her dogs and it took us a yr and a half to decide on adding a new addition in the meantime i did plenty of resesrch but its never enough lol. I learned aa pedigrees pretty well. and I will copy and paste the kanji. Im just so excited even if we do have to wait http://www.jp41.com/kanji l .I know itll be worth itI because then that puppy will be the one that was meant for us. The kanji for hachisu from the website I was looking at is on this site since its hard do the whole pasting thing on my tablet and @ poetocdragon ooh ok I get it now wih the pronounciation. I figured as much since I watch some anime lol and what are your opinions for the name hachisu? Should we keep it? Or will her name mean bee hive if we keep the way its written? Sorry if im confusing writing all this on my tablet is not as easy as I thought lol
  • timkimtimkim
    are you waiting for pup from Kaiju? ^^ can't wait to see pup pics soon from you.

  • NanookNanook
    Lol yessss I am 2 more days to confirm pregnancy so excited XD. I will definitley be more active o the forums especially when we actually get her omg XD
  • MapleTwinkieMapleTwinkie

    Hasu is a beautiful name! 蓮 does mean Lotus and it is not an outdated Kanji ( Maybe Hachisu refers to an outdated way of saying that Kanji). I've been studying calligraphy for over 20 years and it is definately still in the Japanese vernacular. (although most japanese speakers are "losing' kanji more and more lol).

    Pronounciation is Hasu. The 'su' part is a lot softer, but it's definately 2 syllables, not one. Not like Haa-Soo, but Hassu ( could sound like Hasss, but make it "sss" it's own syllable is the best way to describe it)

    Very pretty name for a dog! I love it !
  • NanookNanook
    Thank you @mapletwinkie my mother and I wanted something different a Japanese name that no one has ever really used for their dog lol we also feel the lotus flower is gorgeous since some are known to grow from murky waters. I got so excited that I already purchased a tag it's a light blue bone to compliment nanooks and it has lil rhinestones in the corner normally I don't get things that Girly even when we had Bella but I couldn't resist lol
  • MapleTwinkieMapleTwinkie
    @Nanook If you do get a pup from Claire, they will definitely be beautiful! I have to admit that I couldn't resist getting a name tag for Saigo even before I found him. Good luck with everything.
  • PoetikDragonPoetikDragon
    edited April 2013
    @Nanook, if you do end up getting a pup from my next litter, the registered names will all start with B. You may of course use whatever call name you want (even if it does mean bee hive, lol). I dont call my dogs by their registered names, even the ones I picked out myself (eg. Angirasu is registered as Amazakura Go Kaijyusou). However, I am happy to take suggestions for registered names if you can come up with one which fits the litter theme (letter B) and gets through the AKIHO censorship approval process. I do have a bunch of B names already picked out as possibilities too.

    @MapleTwinkie I believe the page was referring to the kana/pronounciation being outdated. Everything else I looked up calls that kanji "hasu" as you noted. I also don't know how to explain the su syllable very well. I can hear it and say it but not write it.
  • rikumomrikumom
    I love the thought that goes behind naming the pup!
    蓮 is a pretty common in Vietnamese for girl names.
    For Japanese I've seen Nasu (eggplant) as dog name but not Hasu yet :-)
  • NanookNanook
    edited April 2013
    lol thank you for the suggestions everyone and @poeticdragon you may have to explain that registered name process to me lol I do know every litter has a registered name I just don't understand that well of how it works lol I appreciate that you will take registered name suggestions as long as it starts with B of course :-) I find that to be an honor (im weird like that, to me breeders are more of a celebrity than celebrities themselves) i'm sure whichever litter we get they would have great register names. Registered names are so long though idk what suggestions I can come up with X.X @mapletwinkie japanese akitas in all are just gorgeous but we just fell in love with claire's dogs i did as much research as possible but we just had that gut feeling to go with claire. and @rikumom thank you also :) for all pets we have we don't name em unless there is something special behind it like "nanook" not only did we name him after lost boys but we chose a different way to spell it because it meant bright one or bright child, and it's crazy because nanook's coloring was off like he was brown not even red even when he turned a yr old but now he is as bright as his name :-) plus its also different too. Even though we picked and already got the tag "hachisu" as the call name my mom asked everyone here what do they think makes a nice female japanese names? or what caused you guys to choose the names for your pets?
  • NanookNanook
    oh I forgot to add guys if you go to this site http://kninecouture.com/ i got nanook a collar from them and we will be getting hachisu's martingale from them as well her collars are gorgeous
  • rikumomrikumom
    I got Land and Seaweed for my pets ;-p

    My shiba came from Japan w/ the call name Riku. It means land, and is a very popular boy's name in Japan, though I cannot imagine us Americans naming our boys Land or Continent. He responds to Squeaku or Squeaks

    My JA's was born here. Her k9 mom's name is Wakakousa, means young grass. Dad is Kitanoumi, means north sea. I asked to register my pup Wakame, meaning seaweed. Her call name is Meichan, but we also call her Loki BB, Beebz, etc...

    Btw, below are a list of food & beverage related names we've seen:

    Gobo (burdock)
    Adzuki (common for red dogs)
    Unagi (for black & tan shiba)
    Bonito (fish shavings)
    Dashi (uncommon)
    Temari
    Tofu
    Sake
    Biru (beer)
    Katsu (cutlet)
    Char Siu
    Dim sum (very popular for toy dogs)
    Mochi (very popular, especially for white dogs)
    Kimchee
    Momo
    Mame (as in Edamame)
    Cayenne
    Coco
    Koji (fermented rice)

    I haven't seen Miso or Tempura though ;-p


  • MapleTwinkieMapleTwinkie
    edited April 2013
    @Nanook she absolutely has beautiful dogs, I can't wait for Ghidora's litter. On top of having fantastic dogs she's very knowledgeable and has been a great resource in this tiny little community. I learned so much from her when I started looking for my JA over a year ago.

    I love the food theme, never thought of going that route!
    My dog was named after a Samurai, Saigo Takamori. But instead of using the Kanji for "West Prefecture", I picked Kanji that means "Strong Companion".

    My breeder doesn't speak English (and so naming conventions aren't really used), so Saigo was his registered name with AKIHO.
  • rikumomrikumom
    edited April 2013
    @MapleTwinkie,
    Glad to see the explanation, I thought his name meant Colorful Steel by the kanji!
  • MapleTwinkieMapleTwinkie
    @rikumom - I LOL'ed at what you just wrote...hehehe :)
    I was wavering between colourful/綵 or companion/儕 .
    Go/剛 means strong.

    I like colourful steel though :D

  • NanookNanook
    lmao i love the food names at the doggy daycare i work at there is this very annoying Maltese named mochi lol but her favorite food is other puppy "treats" XD idk how many times a day we have to stop her smh and i love the "land" and seaweed name lmao too cute!!! @mapletwinkie she is very kind i first private messaged her about a year and a half ago or so on this forum about advice etc.. and she was very helpful and patient that's what drew me to her and when we were looking for a 2nd dog we were originally going to try to get another rottweiler but then my mom just didnt want to feel like she was replacing bella and plus she always saw me on my laptop looking up JA's and i kept showing off claire's dog "mom look how gorgeous they are" and after a while she asked if their personality is similar to shiba inu's etc... and then she was convinced lol took her a long time I was shocked my stepfather said yes too because he has this OCD with nanook's hair but after he read on them and researched himself he fell in love as well.
  • PoetikDragonPoetikDragon
    edited April 2013
    Registered names are long, but a large part of that is just the kennel suffix. For example, all puppies from my kennel are named "<Something> Go Kaijyusou." Kaijyusou roughly means monster house (my AKIHO kennel name) and Go is just used to signify that the preceding part is the name of an animal. The first part is the dog's actual name and could be short or long: "Hana" is pretty short while "Boukyou No Tora" is much longer. Typically no more than four kanji should be used, however. The people at AKIHO will veto anything which doesn't make sense or is "unbecoming" for a Japanese Akita, and of course it must actually be Japanese -- in kanji.

    [They didn't like my kennel name, but I got it past the censors anyway! LOL.]

    I have made a list of names I am considering for the B litter. I love thinking about this stuff, its really interesting to me. The first list contains names suggested by my "adopted" Japanese aunt and her two daughters when they came to visit from Japan a couple weeks ago. The second list is stuff I found on http://www.jisho.org/ and http://dictionaries.nihongoresources.com/names/. I haven't run them by a native speaker yet and am not sure they'd pass AKIHO. The stars indicate how much I like the name, with 5 and 4 stars having special meaning to me.

    Confirmed Names
    ★★☆☆☆　♀　磐梯の雪　 Bandai No Yuki ("Snow Bandai (a mountain)")
    ★★☆☆☆　♀　紅薔薇　　 Benibara ("Crimson Rose")
    ★★★★★　♂　弁慶　　　 Benkei ("Strong Man")
    ★★★★☆　♀　別嬪　　　 Beppin ("Pretty Girl")
    ★★★★★　♀　微笑　　　 Bishou ("Smile")
    ★★★★☆　♀　琵琶乃調べ Biwa No Shirabe ("Melody Lute")
    ★★☆☆☆　♀　牡丹　　　 Botan ("Peony")
    ★★★★☆　♀　望郷の桜　 Boukyou No Sakura ("Cherry Blossom Nostalgia")
    ★★☆☆☆　♂　武将　　　 Bushou ("Warlord")
    ★★★☆☆　♂　白虎　　　 Byakko ("White Tiger")

    Unconfirmed Names
    ★★★☆☆　　　抜群　　　Batsugun ("Outstanding")
    ★★☆☆☆　　　蛮勇　　　Banyuu ("Savage Valor")
    ★☆☆☆☆　　　敏速　　　Binsoku ("Agility")
    ★★★★★　　　慕龍夢　　Boryumu ("Cherishing Dragon Dreams")
    ★☆☆☆☆　　　冒険　　　Bouken ("Adventure")
    ★☆☆☆☆　　　膨大　　　Boudai ("Enormous")
    ★★☆☆☆　　　武士　　　Bushi ("Warrior")
    ★★★☆☆　　　武勇　　　Buyuu ("Bravery")

    I may end up adding some suffixes to some of these names as well, like -maru, -ichi(rou), -ko, -hime, etc.
  • rikumomrikumom
    @MapleTwinkie,
    Between our JAs, we got Iron Man and Loki from The Avengers covered ;-p
  • NanookNanook
    edited April 2013
    lmao avengers!!!!! and @poeticdragon ok now i understand and lol that you got your kennel name pass the cencorship lol haha idk why they wouldn't like your kennel name its creative btw some names you had with 1 star like binsoku was pretty cute byakko is nice too. oh thank you for that website btw. I'm going to use it for reference for our hachisu. I can't wait to see what her registered name will be.
  • PoetikDragonPoetikDragon
    A name I didn't include, but which amuses me, is Binshou. Written as 敏捷 it means "nimble" or "agile." But if you write it as 愍笑 it means "smiling with pity." I think its the first homonym pun I've made in Japanese. :D
  • NanookNanook
    lmao nice!!!!
  • rikumomrikumom
    I can see some old school breeders objecting to their national treasures being called strange beasts, lol~
  • *JackBurton**JackBurton*
    It's because kennel names are not as strict as puppy names.

    On the litter where I get my fourth and fifth male, I love to name them Yojimbo (用心棒, Yōjinbō?) and Daigoro. Or maybe my next liter will be my Tekken litter. Kunimitsu, Yoshimitsu, Heihachi, Kazuya, Miharu Hirano, Mokujin
  • rikumomrikumom
    I love it @*jackburton*!!

    If someone ever gets a litter of eight, the pups can get named after Nansō Satomi Hakkenden!!
  • NanookNanook
    another tekken lover??? who would've though lol I was thinking of tenchi muyo characters as well for "hachisu" like ro-ohki for the little pet that's called a cabbit hybrid cat and rabbit lol then it was ryoki , aeka, and sasami all from tenchi muyo lol. Then I was thinking of dead or alive hitomi and kisumi lol but my mom said no to all of those
  • WrylyBrindleWrylyBrindle
    Ah, then Juno is a boukenhime :)
    She's Princess MononoKai...
  • PoetikDragonPoetikDragon
    lol!
  • NanookNanook
    it's been confirmed hachisu's name will be change to hasu since that's the real updated way to say lotus flower. The Japanese bakers at the bakery by my job told me hasu is lotus flower and they told me how to say it properly what's even cool is that they were shocked to hear I'm getting a JA I said not to be confused with the AA the Japanese national treasure JA and they were shocked that I knew their expression said a thousand words lol they wished me luck it was nice :-)
  • NanookNanook
    Ok nooooowwww we officially picked a new name lol, miyako will be her name I checked the translation and kanji to double check and it means beautiful nught child. Figured it would fit perfectly to match her brindle coat :)
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