When do you add to the pack?


I have two shibas, male and female. They coexist fairly peacefully. Our female is a bit alpha and the male is quite passive.


I've
been thinking about opening my home to foster rescue shibas for some
time and they are getting a 'load' of shibas (about 4) at the end of
April and want me to take in a female.


I'm a bit hesitant
because of how alpha my female can be. We have established my husband
is the pack leader and our female still challenges him from time to
time. Never aggressive, just disregards him when he is trying to bring
her out of her alpha-ness (like with a beef shank bone envy or
something). 


Is it better to keep the peace in our pack as
it is or add to it and hope for the best? The good thing is it is a
foster dog so if it doesn't work, thats it. But the female they want to
put with us is a black and tan and we've been waiting for one so if its
right, we might hope to keep her. Maybe. Big maybe.


How do you know when the right time is to add to the Shiba pack?!  

Comments

  • edited November -1
    Well, I would certainly advise against adding to the pack and "hoping for the best". If you do decide to add to the pack, you have to put in a lot of effort to make it work. As far as timing goes, I don't have much experience with it, but I would imagine if you feel your pack dynamics are stable (which it sounds like they are) then it would be an ok time. Are you Shibas socialized well? Have they been around any other Shibas?
  • edited November -1
    We actually do not know any other shibas locally but i belong to a dog
    socialization group and our shibas have always done wonderfully around
    all the other dogs, ranging in size from a 15 lb terrier to a 80lb
    mastiff!
  • edited November -1
    ** i should add that i took in a few fosters before, the last being a
    basset hound who was extremely passive. I've never had a female since
    we have had Tsuki so thats my most fearful prospect - female vs. female
    dominant issues
  • edited November -1
    I know of one couple who has had success with multiple females. They have one male and three females plus a female foster. So I know it can be done. I'm sure it mostly comes down to you and your husband making sure to keep control.
  • edited November -1
    very true - also, i'm kind of loving getting time with my two dogs (we
    had the basset since july '07) but i don't think i can turn down the
    dog in need..
  • edited November -1
    Jake made my life and all those around us miserable for 3 weeks when I brought home a female Shiba around his age; however, she was very very passive.  He might do better with one who stood up to him a little.  I think it depends on the dogs.  Jake is so possessive, but he's getting better as we socialize every chance we get.  I would love another one or two or three :-)  The playtime video brings out my wants.
  • edited November -1


    It definitely depends on the dog. We took Mika to a friends house. I was against it because their female was supposedly dominant. Mika was fine with their female, but....she attacked the male. 


    I think she was 'correcting' him. The introduction wasn't handled properly because of our friends. Mika growled at him immediately, but when we went up to their yard, all was well and she was sniffing and fine....for 2 minutes. Then he came up behind her...oops. She was startled, quickly turned and took hold of his neck!

  • edited November -1


    I agree with Barbara, it depends on the dogs... Maui is highly reactive / aggressive and we have mixed him with 5 dogs so far and have had only one incident (knock on wood).... but we watch him like a hawk all the time.


    I would say, the younger the better... introduce a young dog to young dogs, or a young dog to older dogs... but older dogs to older dogs is much harder, they are much less willing to accept a new pack member.


    It also has a lot to do with how your pack is structured and how much effort and time you are willing to put into the transition period.


    I also think the sex issue is not that big (in altered animals - unaltered animals is a whole different ball game)... female and female, male and male... these issues probably all come down to dominance vr. submissive personalities and not the sex of the dog.


    Having said that, our males get along better than our females... females dogs seem to be a bit bitchy... toward other females and toward males.

  • edited November -1


    'female dogs seem to be a bit bitchy'


    How apropos! They are bitchesTongue out, LOL. But I agree. I always see and hear about male and male alpha fights, but it just seems like male dogs are so much more laid back.  

  • edited November -1


    thank you!


    i think its going to be case per case to see how
    our dogs accept foster dogs one by one - hopefully it will work out. We
    have at least until the end of the month to savor time with just the
    two!


     

  • edited November -1
    I think it's amazing you're fostering. It's not easy to disrupt your family so much. It takes very special people to do it. Your dogs and the foster dogs are very lucky.
  • edited November -1


    aw! thank you!


    i mean it would be so much easier to just have the two and be 'peaceful' but something is pulling me towards it - and i know i can deal with it - so its sort of a no brainer for me in my current situation!! my husband isn't nearly as keen with the ideal but i was also blessed with a tolerant man! Wink

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