who likes to go hunting with their dog!
Just interested. My dog ambushes anything she can eat, so I think she'd be good at hunting coypu, beaver, bobcat,rats,etc.
What do you guys hunt? Or what would you like to hunt. My dog also pulls scooters and people. Also my dog is a laika mix I think.
What do you guys hunt? Or what would you like to hunt. My dog also pulls scooters and people. Also my dog is a laika mix I think.
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I'd like to start like @WrylyBrindle has on grouse, but my Shikoku has shown more drive to retrieve than to flush, so I'm considering duck with him instead. Everything just seems like a really BIG learning curve and a big time investment while I'm a FT student and FT worker, so I haven't gotten into it yet.
On the coyote story...
I don't remember anything about the coyote being any larger than normal. I'll have to find the article. I do remember that the coyote only got two bites in. One of the bites was nasty and punctured an artery(?) in the dog's leg. What I remember from the article was that the family actually opted to put the Dane to sleep when they got to the vet.
The only reason I had made note of that attack was because everyone was SO hyped up about the fact that a coyote killed this "GIANT" dog like it was a battle to the death, when really, it was the family that had the dog PTS due to the dog's pre-existing health conditions and "complications" that could have occurred. Still a very tragic story.
There was something else about that article that bothered me, but I can't remember what without reading it again.
Generally this is pack hunting with trucks full of hounddogs.
Eastern coyotes are larger than western coyotes. It is believed that they crossed with wolves while on the way here thru canada. This guy on Cape Cod has been researching coyotes for a while now http://www.easterncoyoteresearch.com/
Still they aren't wolves or humongous, they are just bigger than western coyotes.
the coyotes in Alaska were quite large too--big enough that you had to be paying attention to tell the difference between them and wolves. Looks wise anyway--behaviorally they are different, and wolves are not commonly seen, of course, but the AK coyotes are also large.
Not saying eastern coyotes aren't bigger...that's what I've read too...but it hasn't fit with the actual coyotes I've seen, which tend toward the larger.
They were about the size of Gojira, I'd guess 21-22" at the shoulder and 50 lbs.
And also, now, I've run into a couple of other NM people (and some in another state) who have had problems with three coyotes--one they see right away, then they realize they're being tracked by two others....I wonder if it's just something they do?
What I do know though is they can easily take down large dogs, because they don't fight one on one. Three on one can do a lot of damage. The bigger dogs out here that are killed by coyotes are killed by groups of coyotes....
I read somewhere that they tend to hamstring animals, so they probably try that with dogs too. Perhaps that's even the hunting thing I saw....the one out in front luring the dog in, and the other two coming in from behind.
Anyway, I tend to think there's probably a lot of different coyotes out there, and I wonder if there's just not really that much information available on them....
This past weekend there were several lion sightings by deer hunters as I was also stalked by one Saturday early morning. Didn't see the big cat but on my way out there were huge lion prints right behind my boot print in a dirt road. Not sure if I'm correct but we may have the highest lion attack cases in the nation.
First one was around 7pm, and we saw it when it crossed the street ahead of us in front of a car and ran into some bushes. We decided to also cross the street and head home through a well-light shopping center rather than up into the dark street of houses. Once we crossed, I saw it had come down alongside the perimeter of the center and was about 15 feet away from us. I shined a flashlight at it, and it backed away and crossed the street again in front of traffic and headed toward a 6-lane street.
Second one was a few days later around midnight, when we had reached the end of a block, and were heading back home after picking up Kouda's business. I saw movement across the street along an empty lot. Sure enough it was another, or the same, coyote. It was looking in our direction as it ran along the sidewalk, and I could see it's eyes glowing with my flashlight. It started crossing the street to the far corner from us while a car turned towards it. We could see it fully in the headlights. We turned and briskly walked away, while looking back. It crossed the far street again and came in our direction and ran up a little hill on the opposite side from us. From there we did not see it again.
Since then we've been carrying a pair of Arnis/Escrima sticks, capable of doing decent damage, but also make a good sound when hit together. Talking with some of our neighbors, we learned our next door neighbor has seen some in the area directly behind our house. (This is scary because we used to take Kouda out there at all hours of the night as a potty training puppy!) Another neighbor said their small terriers where mauled through their fence a few years ago. And another said a woman recently was walking her small dog and was ambushed by a coyote on the same street we saw the first one.
I'm still learning, but what I've read about coyotes so far is their size can vary greatly, probably because of breeding with other canines. I would hypothesize that the larger mixed ones would be more likely to form packs, but the standard coyote is more often alone or in pairs. They are known to try to lure loose dogs away with them to potentially kill in a group. (I also learned that they like to poop on sidewalks and trails, as a way of marking territory. Makes me think twice about all the poop I see.)
This video is interesting. If that is a full size Rhodesian Ridgeback, that is one huge coyote. Beautiful though. It almost seems like normal play except how the coyote keeps trying to get the dog to follow it before finally slinking off.
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The coyote's dental formula is I 3/3, C 1/1, Pm 4/4, M usually 2/2, occasionally 3/3, 3/2, or 2/3 × 2 = 40, 44, or 42[15] Normal spacing between the upper canine teeth is 29–35 mm (1.1–1.4 in) and 25–32 mm (0.98–1.3 in) between the lower canine teeth.[16]
Dentition
3,1,4,2
3,1,4,2
The upper frequency limit of hearing for coyotes is 80 kHz, compared to the 60 kHz of domestic dogs.[17] Comparable to wolves, and similar to domestic dogs, coyotes have a higher density of sweat glands on their paw pads. This trait, however, is absent in the large New England coyotes, which are thought to have some wolf ancestry.[18]
During pursuit, a coyote may reach speeds up to 43 mph (69 km/h),[19] and can jump a distance of over 13 ft (4 m).[3]
Weight: 77 - 85 pounds (35 - 40 kg) Also, coyote may crossed with dogs and have longer fur. What state do you live in?
Your data states before all of the the measurements that that coyotes typically stay within a range. Again like dog breeds its an average trait. So there will always be exceptions. I believe @shibamistress did infact see a GSD coyote and as she states there is a surprising lack of indepth data on on coyotes, especially in recent times.
So if you made those posts to express how aghast you were at the size of her local coyote pack so be it, they are probably one of the top predators in her area but I wouldn't discredit the possibility of large coyotes unless you have done the accurate population studies on the different regional specimens.
As for @tarokun - You keep asking a lot of personal questions to forum members where we know absolutely nothing about you. Why not post a proper introduction allowing us to get to know you?
Edited: Holy bad grammar Monday!
The Hokka pups are at the vet now getting their rabies shots, so I'll start getting them out in the woods with me this weekend.