Was your akita pup very clingy??

Hi all.

I picked up my AA pup Eowyn 5 days ago and I am enjoying her very much, though there is one problem for me. At her breeder's place she lived in an outside kennel with a male puppy and other dogs around in separate kennels. Since I have gotten her home, she has been very clingy! If I go to the bathroom and close the door she will whine on the other side of the door. If I let her out alone (even though there's plenty to do for a puppy) she will sit at the door and whine or jump on the door.

She has been in the yard with me loads of times and also with my parents' dogs, so she is familiar with the area. Ofcourse it is still quite new to her, but still, I imagined that having and "independant" breed would be a little easier, separation wise. Ofcourse long separation will be hard for her in the beginning, since she has always had company, but for her to start whining when I go to the bathroom (even if there's other people in the room where she is), is a bit extreme for my taste.

One of the reasons I chose akita is, that I do not like velcro dogs, and now I kinda have one ;)

Am I wrong in assuming that the akita is an independant breed?
How was your akita pup with this?

Any advice?

Comments

  • Hmm.....my boy was more clingy than my Shibas, but I wouldn't really say he was clingy much....He followed me quite a bit as a pup, but then liked to lay down where he could see me, rather than right next to me.

    I wonder if it is just she is still so discombobulated from being in a new place? she may just need to settle in! Congrats on getting her finally, btw!
  • Akita are clingy dogs, all of ours were. I dunno why people say they are aloof, I have not found that to be the case with any of the 4 Akita we have owned.
  • Perhaps they are clingy when you compare them to a pit or GSD.
  • aykayk
    edited February 2011
    Usually it's in the context of aloof towards strangers.
  • I have Hilo who used to live with Brad. I would definitely say he is clingy. Almost as clingy as my pit bull. He is less friendly with strangers than my pit bull Ruby. But that just means he doesn't try to climb inside new people and make out with them. My Shikoku is very friendly but likely the least clingy.
    Hilo is the only JA I know or have known. I have known a fair number of AA. I would describe both breeds as clingy. Never would I ever describe them as aloof.
  • Wow so I totally got that wrong then... Hmm, I will have to see how it goes. Hope she will calm down a bit in time. Otherwise I might go crazy ;)

    It's funny though, I have never had the impression that akitas were clingy. The ones I've met greeted visitors and then wanted to go back out in yard (alone or only with another dog, I might ad)... Maybe these were special cases.
  • both my JA where clingy as puppies, athena is still a puppy (we will have to see if that changes) and mars remained so until he went to the bridge to the point with him that he wasn't so much clingy but totally obssessed with me. i couldn't even having a bath without him either been in the bathroom or have him breathing under the door making sure he could still smell me. venus our AA was more independant as a puppy but she is still very clingy, she dislikes been shut away from her family or been left. what ever room i am in she is there, infact they both are. but i have to say they are both very chilled and happy to just lay and nap if i watch tv just as long as i am close. they won't stay as close to their dad if i'm around but if i go out and leave them with him they switch their attention straight over to him and he as akita shadows while i'm gone.
    everyone i have met through rescue who owns AA's as said the same. we hear about the odd dog who prefers to have time alone but most seem to want to be close by.
  • My first akita was a bit clingy and toward the end of her days, she developed severe separation anxiety with me in particular. She was NOT extraordinarily affectionate, she just liked to be in the same room with one of us and would follow from room-to-room. Originally, I attributed that to me being an at home mom and homeschooler, as well as raising her from a puppy. However, we just adopted an akita rescue last month who is 3-yrs-old and she is my little shadow already. So I think maybe it's just the breed in general. I agree, I don't know why the "books" all say that they are aloof. Unless they are referring to strangers, I am not sure. Even though they seem to be a "little shadow", I do like the fact that the akita is not high-energy and "in my face" for attention. That's just my experience... as little as it is!
  • Hmmm....so glad Oskar isn't like this, at least not any more. He doesn't even always wants to be in the room with us....sometimes he goes upstairs to lay up there on his own, and he seems to prefer to be outside, too.

    He seems not at all clingy compared to a GSD or pittie, but more interested in being with me than a Shiba.

    I think of clingy as like the velcro dog effect: ie. they always want to be touching you. I HATE that! (The worst dog for it I ever met was an otherwise sweet Viszla, who literally wanted to be pressed up against you every moment).
  • Ugh, I hate velcro dogs too. My Mom's dogs are like that. Juneau will put her feet on your and Sasha her head XP
    Conker isn't clingy, he just likes to be in the same room as us. If we are in different rooms then whatever's more interesting is the room he's in.

    I think when people and books call a dog aloof I think they mean mainly to strangers or people who aren't theirs.
  • @shibamistress - there's a reason the Vizsla has affectionately earned the nickname "The Velcro Vizsla." They're all like that.
  • @ayk - Ah, ok, that makes more sense I guess.
  • @shibamistress
    Oscar sounds wonderful! I'd love for Eowyn to turn out that way. Will have to see. I would not have a problem either, if she just could stay calm and follow me with eyes only (or move from room to room with me) without having to walk right beside me all the time.

    When I think of clingy I also include this obsessive following and whining when I go to the toilet. She seems to be getting a bit better with the whining outside the toiletdoor, but only sometimes and if I don't take too long ;)

    I will have to see how it all turns out when she gets a bit older... I hope she can relax a bit.
  • edited February 2011
    Sorry that she's taking her sweet time to relax in the home. I too am not a fan of the clingy dog. When Koda was a pup, he would sit outside and just stare out into the night's sky and listen to all the animals and birds in the trees. I loved the time away. Ofcourse it was summertime, and the weather was beautiful here in California, and that allowed him to want to venture off more.

    I was at the park yesterday evening and there is a Rott, Bronsen, who really likes me. He's 1, and about 115 pds. He follows me everywhere and has his head and body on me at all times. Now I had Rott's, but I don't think I could go back to that full-time. I really like Bronsen, but living with that would drive me a bit nuts now that I have lived with a Kai.

    Hopefully she will grow out of it, but I do think Akitas are more clingy than the rest of the NK's. Maybe some work on building confidence would help?
  • Hmmmm... my akita's were/are not clingy in the sense of needing to be "touching" me. They just like to be in the same room where they can see me all the time. Any they both follow me from room-to-room if I am doing things around the house. But they definately do not have to touch me all the time... licky, touchy lap dogs are not for me. My mother-in-law had yorkies and they were always needing to be in someone's lap or carried around by her. That just won't work for me - to each their own. But from the reading I had done prior to owning an akita, it gave me the impression they were more independant and aloof than mine have been.
    I am sure Eowyn will grow out of the whining and calm down as she becomes acclimated. BTW - I love that name! I am a big fan of L.O.T.R.
  • edited February 2011
    @tjbart17
    Like you describe Koda is how I had hoped Eowyn would be, that she would enjoy being outdoors and not quite so attention needy. Akitas have this big fur and most will choose being outdoors so as not to get too hot, but Eowyn is still just a pup and not so sure of herself (I think) that she is able to go by herself much. She was almost 5 months when I picked her up, so I guess I had hoped she would be further along.

    Do you have any good suggestions for confidence building training?

    @liljenn
    Like you, I had a slightly different picture of the akita in my head, from what I had read and been told by other akita owners and even from the akitas I'd met! I really am not good with clingy dogs, but I hope that she will change once she gets more confident and older...
  • @Brego_mellon_nin Training helps confidence. I did agility classes and obedience with Koda to help him when he was that age. Also remember she's still a pup. She may grow up a bit after she's gone into heat, but I wouldn't necessarily wait on that.
  • Give her a food puzzle (like a kong), get her mind off you and focused on something interesting. Food puzzles help a lot with separation anxiety too. You can put a towel down or something and give her the food puzzle there so she has her own little "place" to chill on. The puzzle will help keep her mind busy and will help classically condition her to being away from you (even if it is just a few feet away). It will help condition her to having her mind off you too.

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  • @tjbart17
    I am already training, we are doing some at home and we are entered in obedience class :) Also I try to take her new places and get her used to that...

    @brada1878
    Great idea, I must try that :) At the moment she has a marrowbone with baconflavoured filling, so she has to work on getting it out. That also helps... It is some kind of foodpuzzle I guess.
  • dog.com has food puzzles on sale right now.
  • Thanks Tara :) I'll take a look...
  • my akitas are more clingy with each other then with me. they do like to be around where i am but not all in my face:)
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