Kai with other animals?
Hello!
I'd like to hear your opinions about Kai and ferret at the same house. We own three ferrets and we dream to get a Kai but theres a broblem with Kai being a hunting dog.
Have you noticed does your Kai go after better big than small animals? To many huntdogs ferrets could be cathc so would it matter does dog hunt a bigger than smaller animals?
We live in row house and our ferrets has a own room but it would be better if dog comes along with ferrets. Of course it also depens how good do you train your dog to endure other animals.
Do you think there's a big difference about male and female Kais?
I'm so sorry about my awful engilsh, hope you get the idea!
I'd like to hear your opinions about Kai and ferret at the same house. We own three ferrets and we dream to get a Kai but theres a broblem with Kai being a hunting dog.
Have you noticed does your Kai go after better big than small animals? To many huntdogs ferrets could be cathc so would it matter does dog hunt a bigger than smaller animals?
We live in row house and our ferrets has a own room but it would be better if dog comes along with ferrets. Of course it also depens how good do you train your dog to endure other animals.
Do you think there's a big difference about male and female Kais?
I'm so sorry about my awful engilsh, hope you get the idea!
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I know ferrets can protect themselves, too, but if it were me, I'd be worried about any of the NK breeds with a small animal, because they are fast and their hunting instinct is strong. I'd keep them out of the ferret room.
We do hike off leash once or twice a week, I know there are several of us who do - but you must have a really good recall installed first.
Of course it has much to do with the personality of the dog (and the ferrets as well).
All I can say; it's not impossible, but better safe than sorry.
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How are your ferrets with dogs they ever met any?
Saya loves cats even neighbor's and cats at pet shop. Some dogs love their cats at home, but will chase and go after strange cats.
Hard to say.. Saya my shiba has killed 5 rabbits in her three years.. one young rabbit and four babies. Getting the kai as puppy will help since the pup will be small and can work on, but still be cautious if it doesn't work out then the dog can't be near the ferrets.
I know someone who owns a shiba and ferret on the shiba forum side.. I'm not sure if they get a long well or not.
Saya only seen a group of ferrets at the pet store they were all sleeping at time so she wasn't impressed, but Saya acts on instinct when she see a baby or young rabbit she grabs it and shakes it kills the prey quickly.
She never met a ferret in person only through it's cage, but that's different if it was moving my guess she might go for it. Cats are friends to her since they're bigger, but when boudreaux runs away from Saya she gives chase, but doesn't hurt the cat she knows her limits since our cat will swipe if they had enough.
Good luck with it hopes it work.
Like Brad said, there are always exceptions. But as a general rule, I think there are other breeds that are far better suited to living with a ferret.
I love the picture where you are walking the ferret and the Shikoku.
What kind of leash do you have on the ferret? I have bought two diff types for mine but I can't keep him in them.
I've never been able to walk him outside of the house because he slips out during our practice walks in the living room.
I would never keep ferrets and dog free same time in the apartment if I wouldn't be waching them.
I was so trying to not think about hunter dog but Kai just seems so good. But were still thinkin other breeds too.
@Saya : Our friend just visited us whit a 9weeks old stafforshireterrier and our boyferret didin't care him at all. Other of the girls went to smell dog very near and when dog got exited and wanted to play, ferret tried to bite him ( and I think that she hitted to the nose). Other girl seems to scare dogs. Also a Spanish waterdog visited us few weeks ago, and then was a same thing.
It would need so much practise with dog and ferrets but I would be ready for that, it's not a broblem to me.
If ferrets and dog wouldn't stand each other, dog would be upstairs when I play whit ferrets at dowstairs. Ferrets are always on their room when we are not at home and I release them couple times at day.
@Vixen Thanks for the photos! I've been waching them also at facebook, it gives me little hope to get a Kai and ferrets! (: Oon tällänen kyylä.
Venom (the ferret on those pictures, Gaiko's best friend) walks on a leash like a dog so I take him out quite often with us.
Even if Gaiko is really interested in every moving animal outside, and (try to) chase them, he has always been good with my ferrets, and even being out, he just check all the time where his friend is heading. Obviously he knows my ferrets are family members, not prey, even if they are small, talking in a weird language and smell funny.
When they play together (there's also a picture of "tooth play") Gaiko is much more gentle with the ferrets, than the ferrets are with Gaiko... Also, my ferrets are not afraid of Gaiko, so they don't turn the chase mode on him.
Gaiko is going for a deer or/and rabbit hunt on next autumn.
Gaiko was nearly 9 weeks old when I got him, so he has grown with the ferrets. And because there wasn't almost any dog company around, he chose to play with the ferrets.
I don't say every NK like this with ferrets or other animals, and I'm almost 95% positive this is rather exception, but I don't either say IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to have this sort of combo at home, based of my own experince. Of course all of this is possible when the chemistry works between the dog and other pets. Then again, shikoku and kai, they are hunting dogs by origin, and no one should never ever forget it.
@Catsu , I have dozens of pictures of Gaiko and his ferret pals, saa kyylätä.
yeah, I'd probably say in general it won't work, but obviously there are exceptions!
But I really liked PoeticDragon's post: hope for the best and plan for the worst and take the intros. slow, slow, slow. It's what we're doing with our Kai pup and our American Akita. The Akita is not fond of the pup, and he was quite ill, too, when the pup first came so was more grumpy than usual. So they see each other with the pup in the big wire crate and they "meet" several times a day with us holding the pup, but no other interactions yet, and we've noticed the AA getting more and more blase about the pup: oh, that old thing! Eventually, they will be able to interact, but we're going super slow.
If anyone have some experience of this I'd like to hear it. (:
But people who have had Kai Ken longer and had more experience will chime in, I'm sure.
My Akita is quite a good watch dog though!
So, as with any dog, you will just have to gauge each situation.
From the stories I've read from Japan about Kai's, I do believe that if their human were in trouble that they would go all out to protect them. With how devoted Ki is and her outgoing nature, I don't see her running off from my daughter or myself if we were in danger.
On that note, if I greet anyone at the door with Koda he is fine with them coming in.
Mei is a whore. She likes anyone and would let strangers inside just as long as they spoke nicely to her. Then she would proceed to greet and hug them.