What is your challenge having an intact male?

edited March 2013 in Behavior & Training
I have a 7.5 month old male Kai. I don't plan to neuter him at least until he is a year old,
but I really do not want to if I can.....

I am wondering if you have any challenge having an intact male. If you do, can you share your experience?

Thanks!
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  • They like to mark a lot!... a LOT!
  • edited March 2013
    We have 3 intact males, one is 10 months, one is 2.5years & one is almost 3 years...2 dutch shepherds & a shikoku. The shikoku marks. The dutchies don't. & none of them lift their legs lol

    No challenges here tho. I've never had dogs before these guys really, & I find keeping the intact male as easy as keeping the spayed female [ kishu ] . So, for me, there are no real challenges.

    Your mileage may vary lol ~
  • Marking, possibly. Then again, my neutered Shiba marks like he owns the world...
    Pursuing females in heat can be a bother, but again, my neutered Shiba does that too.
  • The marking. We have gone through quite a few belly bands.
  • My 4 year old Kishu love to dig out and wonder the streets in search of a dog in heat. He's not as much active like before but he still tries.
  • I have more challenges with intact females than intact males. (Thank god for hardwood and tile.)
  • my intact male is only 6 months old, so he doesnt even lift his leg to pee yet, doesnt hump things/dogs/legs- but I think its early. SO far, So good! I'm waiting to see if unwanted behaviors will develop, but thinking since I dont have any intact females I may not see those behaviors? My oldest female marks more than any of the other 3 on walks- she has always been very marky (outside). The girls kinda rule here and none of my dogs tolerates rudeness, so I am curious to see how the pup does as he matures. everything is so contextual...

    Im also curious as to how much of this is individual- ie: Kaiju was humpy way back to when Brad first got him as a puppy, yet Matsu has never humped anyone/thing. Maybe Kaiju is just a sexy guy and maybe Matsu is more reserved.

    What ages do these behaviors tend to show up?
  • None of my intact males hump. I only have 1 that tries to mark in the house, but that is getting better. The boys are all whiny PITA's when the girls are in season. Kuma requires a sedative when the girls are in season. Otherwise you get tired of his whining and his shiba scream.
  • When London (Malamute) was still intact (I kept him intact until he was 3), we didn't really see any behaviors that were... specifically because we kept him intact. He did get a little "crazy" (pacing - especially while outdoors, clawing at the fence, lots of super-sad howly whines and frustration noise) when the dog up the street was in heat... but he didn't really act any differently than usual.

    No humping (unless he gets really excited/anxious while playing) and only minimal marking while outdoors, never indoors.
  • I have the most trouble keeping weight on the intact dogs. I try to fatten them up before an expected heat but one time it was really bad with every spine vertebrae showing.

    No issues with marking for me, but the male pups did start off humping other dogs, especially during rowdy play. I discourage that behavior and it's disappeared.
  • Peeing everywhere. Lol

    He marks in the correct places 98% of the time. I always have to watch him when I take him to places like petsmart where other dogs have marked.

    I don't really know anything else so I dont find toki challenging at all.

    Tokis humping has been mainly a young puppy thing. He humped my leg once when he was about 3 or 4 months old, was scolded, and he hasn't humped a person since. Now, he play humps with other dogs, but even that seems less common these days. I kinda carefully watched the two dogs play and let the other dog correct him or jump in if shit was about to go down, which I can only think of one time: toki tried to hump a female new foundland and she wasnt thrilled of his advances, lol. Sometimes dogs dont care to be humped, some care. Different playing styles.
  • spoke too soon- he lifted his leg to pee on our walk today :) not a negative.
  • He is,manning up, stepping into his papas shoes
  • One of our intact males would usually fence-fight with the neighbors' yappy dogs when they would jump against the fence, whereas our spayed female wouldn't give two figs during those events. But we also had an intact male who would just pee against the fence when the neighbors on the other side off us had an aggressive dog. Different personlities of our dogs... Walking with males can be a pain - you have to stop at every other tree or bush so they can mark it... Always made me wonder if they had an extra bladder hidden somewhere under their fur...
  • I'm a pretty firm believer in waiting til they are a year old or so to spay neuter, but I also think if you're not going to breed, then do it. I don't see the reason not to.

    I was pretty self-congratulatory on easy it was to have an intact male because both dogs I had (AA and Kai Ken) were (note past tense) really easy. The Akita stayed that way. He marked outside but not like crazy and was pretty mellow. We neutered him at a little over a year, and everything was fine.

    My Kai boy was great too. He marked outside a lot and had once marked in my friend's house where another dog had gone, but never any other inappropriate marking. He's sweet and mellow, though I note as he got older my neutered AA seemed to have more problems with him.

    Then I don't know what happened. Right around a year of age he started marking like crazy. Not just a little, but everywhere. Indoors I mean. Not in our house (at first) but everywhere else we took him. So yeah, he doesn't care about the belly band either--he still keeps doing it. Then after two weeks of pissing on everything in his dog class, including people, he started doing it in our house too.

    His neutering appt. is Monday. he's not going to be bred, he's over a year old, and I'm quite relieved to have him neutered.
  • edited March 2013
    Always made me wonder if they had an extra bladder hidden somewhere under their fur...
    I thought same thing. My spayed catahoula mix liked to mark on areas other dogs had peed on she did it so much she went dry and only tiny bit came out. haha

    Once me and my mom were walking the dogs and this loose terrier mix So we checked id and saw it was from a shelter that is nearby so we go to it. the shelter is closed.

    Well along the way to the shelter this male dog marked none stop ever tree and post. I know it's normal for males to mark, but it got to point nothing came out and he kept doing it.

    We were like come on we need get you to your owner not pee all over.

    We checked for id tags which we should done in first place the dog had so many tags it was nuts. Turns out owner is near where we found him so we walked to there and he continued to slow us down by marking despite nothing coming out of him.

    All my male dogs been neutered. They marked, but not too badly.
  • I'm coming to the conclusion that as long as I have even 1 intact bitch, it's easier managing multiple girls and only 1 male, than it is managing multiple intact males and 1 bitch in heat. That's a flip flop from what I had believed before. I will probably not be getting any more males. On their own or with spayed girls, the boys are great together. When I had the 3 boys, they were quite the Band of Brothers, but it all changed when Farrah was in heat, and they started fighting for the first time. That and the yowling, anorexia, and marking in crates, on top of the toilet, on beds, on the doors to the house, on the car tires, on my leg, drove me up a wall.
  • @WrylyBrindle Matsu is becoming a man! lol
  • I have 1 intact male and 2 intact females. Overall, the male is good and really doesn't have any challenges. The only time is when the female(s) are in heat and then he may occasionally mark in the house. Usually maybe once or twice during the full heat and only if you aren't paying attention. Other times he never marks in the house.
  • I have two intact males (one is still a puppy so he doesn't really count). I don't think I have any problems relating to him being intact. Yes, he lifts his leg to mark, but so do many neutered ones. I am not stopping to let him mark, but he got the length of the leash to do so and if the length is up and he's not done he gets pulled along.. Didn't take him long to get the point that mom doesn't like to stop every five metres.

    We don't have any females in the house, but he has never been very problematic with ones we meet that are in heat. He'll of course get stressed and try his best to get to her, but if I for instance put him in another room while the bitch is here it's no problem.
  • It's crazy how much Leo marks, and it's so wierd that he never did it before he turned one. I mean he did, but normal marking--it was like paranoidparrot talks about--no more than my neutered/spayed dogs. Seriously, my spayed female marked as much as he did, so I thought, I dunno, I guess this is it.

    Then suddenly? EVERYWHERE! And the thing I really couldn't tolerate was peeing on people! Once he started doing it elsewhere, he started doing it here too. So yeah, I'll be glad to be done with this!
  • @shibamistress Maybe he smells a female in heat near by. That could explain his crazy marking.
  • I think he just discovered the pleasures of marking, since he was doing it in several wildy different places. That's alright, we're taking care of that tomorrow! ;)

    The funny thing in our house is to see how horrified the other dogs are when he does it, particularly Oskar, who backs away, like "badness! badness! I didn't do that!"
  • Oskar... :x
  • Wow, all of this unneutered male behaviour is basically what Rakka acts like. She lifts her leg and pees all over everything. Seriously, we had a doggie playdate with a friend's rottweiler recently and Rakka was still peeing all over the yard half and hour into it and the other dogs (both male, one neutered, one not) were over it and having a blast).

    She's so butch.

    Sosuke was neutered at about 18 months and he hasn't been any different since. He was well-behaved and we didn't experience any problems with him. He even went to an agility class with a female in heat and behaved himself there. He was really interested in all the places she had sat, but was still a good boy.
  • good old Sosuke!
  • Come to think of it, he only had the one nut, so maybe he was kind of a nancy boy.
  • Goro hasn't given me any troubles. Aside from trying to hump ChoCho when they play, but even that comes in phases and she does it too. He's never peed inside the house (not counting puppy days). He has peed on other dogs before... usually the really barky and annoying ones lol.
    My one fear of getting a male dog was the whole humping people thing, but so far Goro has never done that! So far he's been a very good boy.
  • Thank you for your reply, everyone!

    It's good to know that majority of you don't have any issues. My puppy marks every mailbox(glad we live in rural area), and likes to sniff a lot. He pees in various ways, both legs down like a little puppy, kneel down with one leg up an inch above from the ground, and also grownup way. He greeted a female in heat this morning but he seemed quite mellow, same as usual. I guess it's too young to get excited..... He used to hump many times until he was about 4 months old, but is now calm down, and I don't see him doing much. Not intact male issue, but my puppy has been shedding since January, and still
    he is(we live in Texas). I think he is almost in summer coat. I hope it will pass soon as it's pain to clean the house.

    @shibamistress Please let us know if his behavior is corrected after the surgery. I am very curious.
  • Oh your in texas! What part?
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