Merry Christmas / Ronan's surgery

edited December 2008 in General
Merry Christmas everyone!

Hope everyone and their pups are doing well. Tasha and Ronan walked into the kitchen to find bags of treats and a horde of squeaky toys. Wow! Were they ever excited and overwhelmed!

Surgery: Ronan is getting neutered tomorrow. We haven't been able to find a female he's not related to for breeding, and there's no point in staying intact if he's not going to be bred. We also hope it'll help his last freak-out incident at the vet a few weeks ago. He refused to let them take his blood and had to be sedated as his heart rate sky-rocketed and we couldn't get near him with a muzzle.

Oh, and we discovered while at the vet clinic that Ronan is totally terrified of 4-wk old kittens. Shakes and quivers. Teeny kittens! They might have looked like they were sleepy, but that didn't fool Ronan. He swore they were going to break from their cage and eat him alive and in one gulp.

Keep up good thoughts for the Ronanator tomorrow. (Mommy is very nervous)
They are using laser so the recovery time should be quicker.

Comments

  • edited November -1
    Awww Michelle,
    Merry Christmas to you and I see you gave Ronan the same present I gave my Ichi. I hope it all goes well for you!

    Jesse
  • edited November -1
    Poor little man!
    He will be fine!
    I have never heard of laser neutering. I will be interested to hear how it goes. We miss you! Don't be a stranger!
  • edited November -1
    Awww, lots of love for Ronan! ~
  • edited November -1
    Good luck to Ronan! My in-laws male cat was laser neutered, the fast recovery time was incredible - and no complications!
  • edited November -1
    Whew, the title had me worried! I thought he had some sort of problem. Well, good luck with the neutering, big guy!
  • edited November -1
    Regardless of which method of surgery you go through, just watch out for the delayed pooping. I just got caught with it twice today after ichi held it for 3 days!

    Jesse
  • edited December 2008
    Thanks, everyone!

    My understanding of how laser neutering is done: A small incision is made at the rear of the scrotum (harder for the dog to lick after surgery). The testicles are then manipulated and 'birthed' through that opening. All cutting is done with the laser, which means less bleeding, fewer nerves are cut, and less time under anesthesia. There are also no stitches. The vet doing the surgery isn't the vet that regularly sees him, but she's the best at surgery and with a lot of experience and we've known her for nearly ten years. She was one of Jack's regular vets. Same clinic as his regular vet, but we just chose this vet because of her surgical experience.

    Jesse - Three days? He didn't go for three days after his neuter?
  • edited November -1
    The pre-anesthetics dry secretions in addition to being NPO will often constipate the dogs (also, they sometimes let one out during the surgery). 3 days is a long time. Laser surgery rocks.
  • edited November -1
    Laser surgery sounds way better than regular one. Rooting for Ronan, here in Lisbon!

    Nice to see you around Michelle! Merry Xmas!
  • edited November -1
    hey michelle,

    He peed within 24 hours but he didn't poop till today (surgery was done on Monday around noon).

    Jesse
  • edited November -1
    It's been good to drop in. I've missed so much! New people, new dogs, and it appears Brad & Jen have more dogs now????

    I've taken the past couple weeks off from writing (except to edit a crit partner's MS). I'm already having withdrawals and planning on starting up the next book soon. The good news is that there are two NY literary agencies that have the full MS to my last book - a paranormal young adult novel that I've titled Ivy MacTavish and the Book of Lost Souls. I started a blog, so for those who'd like to stop by and say hello (or if you are also a writer) it's http://michellemuto.blogspot.com. No website yet.

    Ronan inspired a character in the book - Devlin. Devlin, who belongs to main character & teen witch Ivy MacTavish, is a breed known as a Beezlepup who chases squirrels, has a serious squeaky toy fetish, and hiccups fire when he eats anything with sugar in it. He also has niche for mischief.

    Anyway, I'm trying to keep my mind off tomorrow. While I am sure Ronan will do just fine, I'm still being very 'mommy' like and worrying. Ronan is great with people - and he's not afraid of the vet EXCEPT when they try to take blood, do a rectal or check his temp. Then, Ronan goes Cujo. Seriously Cujo. I don't know what to do about that. He forgives them the very second they stop trying to 'invade' him - all kissy and loving. I mean really - any ideas? It's not like I can train him to allow his temp to be taken, LOL! I don't even want to imagine doing clicker training for that, rotflmao!
  • edited November -1
    Merry Christmas to you too!
    Good luck Ronan, kiss those balls bub bye!
  • edited November -1
    Hello, (I don't mean to butt in, but just a quick thought). In the CGC there is the "stand for exam by friendly stranger" which is a hard test for reactive dogs anyway and doing the training with my shibas has greatly helped in their tolerance of friendly strangers touching them all over, such as would be done at a vet office or obedience/show ring. My dogs are also frequent fliers at the vet office so it's imperative they behave and don't fuss when having blood drawn, testing, whatever. The dog focuses on a high value food treat or, in Ronan's case, maybe a squeaky toy. I use a laser pen for Beebe and Ike when it's really tough for them to focus. I don't think he would forgive you for doing rectal temp deconditioning:) Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
  • edited November -1
    Hi Michelle,

    nice to here from you. i am happy to hear your pups are well. good luck to you and Ronan on his procedure.

    you should stop by the forum more often.

    hava a happy holiday.

    ~Brad
  • edited November -1
    BTW - a few of us are in ATL this week and planning to meet on the 3rd. would you be able to join us?
  • edited December 2008
    Lindsay - you want to really laugh? Ronan passed his CGC with flying colors. He'll do anything, any command for any stranger who holds the leash. When he sees people he lights up - he loves them. He just freaks to the nines when they poke and prod. They can examine his teeth, brush him, hold him. How weird, huh? No, would never forgive me, rightfully so! He isn't even opposed to going to the vet. Just doesn't like certain things... nail trimming, needles, thermometers, confinement. He reacts like a wild animal who is afraid for his well-being. It's so strange! Got any other ideas? I'm all ears,,, I'd love to help him. I feel so bad for poor Ronan. It's not good for him to react like this, and not good for anyone else, either.
  • edited November -1
    Brad - where are you going to be? I hear you've got new pups! I'm DYING to hear about them!
  • edited November -1
    If you come I am keeping Tasha!
  • edited November -1
    Take pictures for me guys! I'll be there in spirit :( ~
  • edited November -1
    LOL! I'll be sure to leave Tasha at home then. She really is the best dog ever. I don't think there's ever been a person who's met her that wasn't swept away by her sweet as sugar from heaven personality. Everyone loves Tasha.
  • edited November -1
    Its official...she is MINE!
  • edited November -1
    Ronan update: I watched the surgery and it looked like it went well. He's snoozing right now. He'll be ready to go home in about an hour or so.... I'll be back.
  • edited November -1
    Interesting that the vet allowed you to watch. Glad to hear you'll be able to take him home. Laser surgery's pretty durned fast and less intrusive if he's able to go home an hour after the operation!

    Jesse
  • edited November -1
    We're home. He took F O R E V E R to come out of the anesthesia. Everyone is exhausted. I have him curled up on a dog bed next to the computer and he's fast asleep. He'll probably sleep most of the night.

    Yeah, I watched. And I was eating cookies while I watched (hey, they were next to me, the vets and the techs offered, I hadn't had breakfast and it was nervous eating). Hubby can't believe I did that. The clinic knows me well enough and they saw how well I took care of Jack. I'm pretty experienced by now, sad to say. I carried him back to the prep room, held him while they shaved him, ran IV and clipped his nails and tubed him. Cleaned up after him when he eliminated because of the sedation.

    I think I'm going to get some tea and take a few minutes to lay down next to him and read a little. I'll report back later.
  • edited November -1
    Oh, you're such a good doggy mommy!
  • edited December 2008
    I try to be a good mom. The clinic had a lot going on - a bloat and another dog vomiting blood in the waiting room, so I suppose an extra hand for the little stuff like holding a leg for shaving doesn't hurt and frees up an extra tech to work on more critical things. LOL! I guess I really should have stuck to those plans I originally had about becoming a vet a long time ago, huh?

    Ronan is still doing okay. Started to get the shakes, so I wrapped him in a blanket. He's back to snoozing comfortably with his head resting on one of his plush squeaky toys that he got for Christmas.

    As for the hour, I guess it was more like three by the time I got him out of there. Still, not to bad. But like I said, they know I've got experience dealing with far more critical things so it freed up a cage. They were really hopping today! Lots of injuries and ailments from the holidays.
  • edited November -1
    Happy After Christmas!

    Glad Ronan is doing "okay" after his surgery - hopefully "better" within the next couple of days. That's hilarous that he is afraid of 4 week old kits, poor guy...young kits can be vicious though -nods and grins-, I mean...they have very shap claws and teeth!

    Try not to be "a stranger", stop by more often and visit with us at least once a week -smiles-.
  • edited November -1
    In some respects, Ronan has done well today. In others, not so great.

    When I had Jack neutered, he was back to his regular self the very next day. Chalk one up for Akita pain thresholds and being typically stoic.

    Ronan keeps wanting to lick, and he's acting weird. Weird in that every once in awhile he'll freak and run, ears down, tail between his legs as though he's running from something that just poked him. He isn't thrilled with me touching his IV spot, either. So, after about three hours of him stressing, I popped him half a sedative that the vet had given for this very reason. He's snoozing now.

    Otherwise, the incision looks okay. No redness or swelling. Ronan has been drinking water and he's eaten today, which is a good thing. He's also been out to pee a couple times.

    I've been watching him non-stop. Frankly, I'm exhausted.
  • edited November -1
    Hi Michelle,
    Sounds like Ronan is acting the same way Ichi did his first 48 hours or so post-surgery. Hang in there, he'll slowly make his way back to his normal self.

    Jesse
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