# ATTENTION SHIKOKU-KEN AND KAI-KEN OWNERS: DNA Worldwide Needs Your Help!

Hi All - I have been working with a lovely lady in the UK, she is looking to expand DNA Worldwide's DNA bank so she can learn more about the DNA makeup of her Cambodian Pariah Dog. This created a movement to get the rarer Asian breeds added to the the dog ancestry database. This would be an AMAZING…

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## brada1878 (admin) · 2008-09-09T17:25:57.000Z
Hi All - I have been working with a lovely lady in the UK, she is looking to expand DNA Worldwide's DNA bank so she can learn more about the DNA makeup of her Cambodian Pariah Dog. This created a movement to get the rarer Asian breeds added to the the dog ancestry database. This would be an AMAZING thing as we would finally be able to prove whether a suggested Nihonken was in fact a Nihonken. Jen and I will be submitting cheek scrapes from Kona, Ahi and Loa and it would be GREAT if you guys could do this too. The catch is that it is best to only provide samples from non-siblings [or half siblings], the more removed and diverse the better. If you are interested, this is how it will work - you will receive a kit to make your samples, you send your samples over to the lab [in the US it will be sent to DNAPrint]. As an incentive, DNA worldwide will add each individual dog's results to the database, provide a generic breakdown into the four types of dog outlined above and provide a genotype for each dog, free of any charge. If you are interested let me know and I will point you in the direction of a contact that can help walk you through the process. ----

## hondru (moderator) · 2008-09-09T18:31:31.000Z
That sounds super interesting. Since Ahi's sample has already been sent, then I guess sending in Rakka's would be redundant. Do share her info when you get it, though. That would be really neat.

## brada1878 (admin) · 2008-09-09T19:27:12.000Z
Yea, I will - for sure... and if they need more samples and Rakka being her sister is not an issue I will let you know right away. ----

## ivanmeza03 · 2008-09-09T21:03:59.000Z
if i wanted to help what do i need to do?

## Edgewood · 2008-09-09T22:36:41.000Z
I would be willing to send in samples - but then Sora and Kiba couldn't send them in (since they are siblings)

## brada1878 (admin) · 2008-09-09T22:44:46.000Z
Ok... cool, you guys are interested. Let me get some contact info for you. ---- Kris - Well, I guess you beat them to it. :o) ---- Ivan - Great! I will get you the info. ----

## ddowdemers · 2008-09-09T23:04:08.000Z
I would be interested too.

## JessicaRabbit (admin) · 2008-09-09T23:18:48.000Z
I would be interested. Although I believe MIko has the same sire as Loa, and Tenji, so could I?

## brada1878 (admin) · 2008-09-09T23:35:42.000Z
Dorothy - GREAT! ---- Jessica - I think it may be ok since none of the Shikoku who we would get samples from share the same dam as Himiko - right? Let me know and I'll check w/ my contact. ---- Now we just need Corina and maybe Peggy and Katja to help... ----

## JessicaRabbit (admin) · 2008-09-09T23:58:39.000Z
Yana was Miko's dam. I don't know, does anyone have Yana babies?

## brada1878 (admin) · 2008-09-10T00:17:40.000Z
Ahi is a Ishi + Yanna pup. hmmm. I will have to see what the geneticists say. ----

## JessicaRabbit (admin) · 2008-09-10T00:29:51.000Z
It is cool to me though that Miko is half sister to BOTH your shikoku.

## brada1878 (admin) · 2008-09-10T00:38:22.000Z
I know, I just kinda put that together - it's really cool. It sounds like she got the best half from each too! :o)

## JessicaRabbit (admin) · 2008-09-10T00:44:09.000Z
One day I will steal you and Jen to Providence just long enough for you two to meet the kids and get slobbered on by Miko and maybe get you that pitbull for your pack ...(NOT Piglet, she is MY BABY)

## brada1878 (admin) · 2008-09-10T01:18:34.000Z
Maybe we can have a Piglet - Hilo exchange week. :o)

## ivanmeza03 · 2008-09-10T02:06:41.000Z
sure! just let me know what you need to know 8)

## hondru (moderator) · 2008-09-10T03:04:15.000Z
I'd take her up on that, Brad. It's my dream to have Jess handpick a pitty for me.

## JessicaRabbit (admin) · 2008-09-10T12:55:02.000Z
Heidi, I would LOVE to pick a Pittie for you, I just got this one to go home with my friends. Possibly the sweetest dog I have ever met. I LOVE her. They are naming her Emma Peel. Brad in my dream world Hilo and Piglet are boyfriend and girlfriend...

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