# kick?! Oo i just noticed that Kiba randomly throws a quick back kick or at least it seems like a kick, and in some cases she throws a series of 2 to 4 Oo. this is normal in the Kais (and all the nihon-kens)? PS: pictures update coming soon! =) ## Thread In Kai Ken · started by ivanmeza03 · 19 replies - **Category:** [Kai Ken](https://nihonken.org/community/c/kai-ken) - **Forum:** [Nihon Ken Forum](https://nihonken.org/community/) ## ivanmeza03 · 2008-08-10T22:49:30.000Z i just noticed that Kiba randomly throws a quick back kick or at least it seems like a kick, and in some cases she throws a series of 2 to 4 Oo. this is normal in the Kais (and all the nihon-kens)? PS: pictures update coming soon! =) ## brandon_w (admin) · 2008-08-10T22:56:19.000Z Is this after a poop or pee? Dogs have scent glands in their rear pads, so sometimes they "mark" extra with those. However if it is random/indoors/after running around, I'd be a bit concerned about Kiba's knee. ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-08-10T22:58:13.000Z I'm torn at what to tell you, Kitsune does this after he potties whereas indoors Tsuki will do it when she's just walking, running, playing or after a nap, she has grade 1 LP. ## _dlroberts · 2008-08-10T23:10:00.000Z Yeah, LP was my first thought. :-( ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-08-10T23:15:36.000Z it almost seems as though its more common in Nihon Ken than is commonly known. ## ivanmeza03 · 2008-08-10T23:59:36.000Z oh well reading what you guys have said she usually throws the kick when shes outside but as i said i just noticed that. ill keep an eye on her. thx! ## brada1878 (admin) · 2008-08-11T01:33:49.000Z Yea, LP was my first thought too -tho Kai are not very prone to LP. I hope its not LP. ## Leonberger (admin) · 2008-08-11T07:17:37.000Z It seems we thought of the same thing. Unless she does it right after she does her business, you should probably take her to the vet and get her knee checked. I also hope it's not LP. ## ivanmeza03 · 2008-08-11T13:44:28.000Z i took Kiba to the vet his morning. she said that she doesnt see nothing abnormal or strange. but i might keep an eye on her. the other part of the story is that the vet spotted dryness and dandruff on kibas skin, and also some swelling surrounding the eyes. she said it may be mange, im still waiting for the call and lets see what she says. :/ ## kwyld · 2008-08-11T13:47:55.000Z Kohji had all of those skin issues too when he was a pup. I got him from Marion too. It went away after a couple of years, now that I have him on really good food and fish oil. I feed Nature's Variety raw(all diff types) and Wellness Core Oceanfish Formula kibble. Before I knew anything about dog foods I had him on Eukanuba Premium Performance and he was greasy, with dandruff and brittle nails until I switched his food. Now he looks amazing! ## brada1878 (admin) · 2008-08-11T15:06:45.000Z The skin issue thing is indicative of the breed, they grow out of it- as Kelly pointed out. Its really strange. ---- ## ivanmeza03 · 2008-08-12T10:32:23.000Z vet said: i have to give Kiba some vitamin E capsules for a couple of weeks, and mix raw food with the dry one. that should improve her coat. and like i said she didnt saw anything strange with her knees so shes healthy =) ## brandon_w (admin) · 2008-08-12T10:37:03.000Z Give fish oil with the vitamin E. Vitamin E and omega's work together to help each of them be absorbed efficently. Vitamin E is also stored in fat so after giving it to Kiba for a couple weeks straight you can probably slow it down to one pill a week. ## ivanmeza03 · 2008-08-12T10:39:05.000Z thx brandon. any raw food recomendation? Oo ## kekti · 2008-08-12T14:53:18.000Z were can you find fish oil? ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-08-12T15:00:48.000Z fish oil: we were using this one on top of the kibble: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/product\_detail.asp?pf\_id=20338201&dept\_id=9&brand\_id=805 but we use capsules now. ## brandon_w (admin) · 2008-08-12T15:10:23.000Z The capsules are the ones made for humans. You can get them at pharmacies. If your dog wont eat the capsule, you can use the liquids, but they tend to cost more. ## ljowen123 (moderator) · 2008-08-12T16:51:20.000Z You can puncture the capsules and drizzle over the food, also. ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-08-12T17:00:09.000Z The spray is more expensive, the caps work, puncturing them works too. Do research on the correct dosing of fish oil per day/week/month etc. for Roxy's poundage. we ended up giving them whole capsules most days b/c it seemed redundant to pour them on the raw meats, etc. But when they get a blend of organs or whatever, we do puncture the caps into the mix. ## ivanmeza03 · 2008-08-13T00:28:41.000Z the vet recomend me this one http://www.allivet.com/3V-Caps-p/25555.htm i puncture the capsule and wait for her to lick it when, she opens her mouth i just press it and she loves it. thinks its a candy or something 8P --- **Navigate:** [Forum home](https://nihonken.org/community/?format=md) · [Sitemap](https://nihonken.org/community/sitemap.xml)