# Josephine Spam -- 2009 (Video of her "cousin" 4-25-2009) Thought I would dedicate this thread to photos and videos of Josephine, who never ceases to amaze. Today is a momentous day! Look what she got! Look what she had for dinner! Her walks in the neighborhood will never be the same! My husband let her go for a quick "potty run" off-leash in her favorite… ## Thread In Photo / Video Gallery (Kai Ken) · started by baanton · 57 replies - **Category:** [Photo / Video Gallery (Kai Ken)](https://nihonken.org/community/c/photo-video-gallery-kai-ken) - **Forum:** [Nihon Ken Forum](https://nihonken.org/community/) ## baanton · 2009-01-13T02:16:04.000Z Thought I would dedicate this thread to photos and videos of Josephine, who never ceases to amaze. Today is a momentous day! Look what she got! Look what she had for dinner! Her walks in the neighborhood will never be the same! My husband let her go for a quick "potty run" off-leash in her favorite area. Things were going well, and then she took off through the deep snow running between houses. After calling a couple times, my husband clad in tennis shoes decided he had to track her in the new, deep snow through neighbors yards, etc. The proud doggie then came running back with her catch in her mouth. The bowl is the rabbit meat, all cooked, deboned and ready for doggie consumption! He mixed it with rice, and will let her feast on rabbit for the next 3-4 days! Yum, Yum! ## Nekopan · 2009-01-13T02:17:54.000Z Lucky girl! Nice catch Josephine! ## Sangmort (moderator) · 2009-01-13T02:22:31.000Z Wow! Go Josephine! There's that hunting instinct :) ~ ## brada1878 (admin) · 2009-01-13T03:33:43.000Z WOW - Good catch Josephine! That's awesome [for her, not so much the bunny]. She would be in heaven here, we have rabbits all over the place. She's looking up in that pics like "Dad, that's MY rabbit!". lol Great spam! ---- ## Romi (admin) · 2009-01-13T04:56:43.000Z WOW!!! That is cool! Nice Job Josephine! ## Leonberger (admin) · 2009-01-13T08:41:25.000Z Well done Josephine, well done! ## ljowen123 (moderator) · 2009-01-13T10:03:31.000Z Great job, Josephine! ## KFontaine04 · 2009-01-13T11:02:36.000Z YUCK and YAY Josephine. :P ## brandon_w (admin) · 2009-01-13T11:04:17.000Z Josephine is lucky that someone knew how to skin and debone that rabbit for her. ## Leonberger (admin) · 2009-01-13T11:20:50.000Z LOL Brandon! Yeah, really lucky, I bet she couldn't have handled the rabbit on her own...of course in rabbit sushi form. ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2009-01-13T12:18:17.000Z awesome job Josephine! actually, she probably could have handled it on her own totally raw, we give ours rabbit parts whole and raw. But wild game should be frozen for a time before consumption anyway. ## KFontaine04 · 2009-01-13T12:20:22.000Z My Husky caught a rabbit once in the Poconos, she ate part of it, but got sick because she wasn't used to rabbit. She was pretty proud though :) Freaked me out to see her white face coming back to me with a little blood on it and a rabbit leg sticking out of her mouth! YUCK! ## _dlroberts · 2009-01-13T14:12:38.000Z Hahaha. You go girl! Josephine is so cool, and super lucky to have you guys. :-) ## asia · 2009-01-13T15:52:22.000Z yay for Josephine! ## sunyata · 2009-01-13T18:07:37.000Z Way to bring home the (rabbit) bacon, Josephine! I am glad she got to really enjoy her catch. :) But I can not help but feel a little sad for the bunny. :( ## Leonberger (admin) · 2009-01-13T18:09:33.000Z Hey, the bunny should have read up on his Darwin. Josephine did ;-) ## baanton · 2009-01-14T00:59:13.000Z Thanks for all the applause for Josephine! Sorry for the long post that follows, but I found myself in a reflective mood after yesterdays event! Interesting and diverse reactions to Josephine's "instinctive" behavior! While growing up on the farm, most of the meat we ate came from animals we raised and butchered on the farm for food (pigs, chickens, turkeys primarily... also, we raised dairy cows so any beef we ate was "store-bought"). So the whole cycle of raising and harvesting meat is not so much "icky" for me as it is merely a fact of life. And my husband was a northern MN "city" boy who hunted and fished continuously. He has told me that he and his brother set rabbit snares along their paper route, and then would bring the rabbits home, dress them out, and his Mom would cook them for them to eat (in addition to all manner of partridge, deer, lake trout, brook trout, etc. that they caught or shot). Thus he has not lost his touch for the dressing out and cooking of wild game. And by the way, we both have a strong discipline that if an animals life is taken in this way, it is for consumption, not just for sport! No meat or fish goes wasted with us. My daughter (visible in the background of the first picture) and her friend who lives with us (both 22) apparently have not observed this whole process of preparing the meat by starting with the dead animal or fish before. They were watching Steve with fascination the whole time (my daughter took some very graphic photos of the skinning and butchering --- I was not so enthralled, so put my camera away for that time!) After Megan was born (she was our second child and born seven years after her brother) we cut down on the fishing and hunting trips or Steve went alone or with our son so she has not really experienced that aspect and still has the vision of the product of the "hunt" as a frozen package of meat or fish. Anyway, it struck me that many people only do know milk from a carton not a cow or goat (or soybean plant), meat from a package not a cow or pig or chicken, and veggies from a can, a freezer or the fresh produce aisle of a supermarket but not from the ground! It's always beneficial for us to reflect upon, and it causes us to appreciate life more fully, when we realize that the whole process of life can only be sustained through consumption of other life! For this we are taught to be (and ought to be) thankful! Tsukitsune: Curious on why the wild game should be frozen for a time, and for how long? Perhaps the thorough cooking Steve did mitigated the need for that? He did say he was certain the bunny was a fresh kill --- still warm and no rigor mortis as Josephine brought it to him, and that he left it outside to cool off for a time (very cold yesterday -- perhaps 10 degrees Farhrenheit, only, so the bunny would have cooled quickly). And with his expert eye he declared the bunny to be healthy, but noted it was most likely fairly hungry (empty stomach)... Perhaps its corresponding lack of energy was Josephine's margin of victory! ## Leonberger (admin) · 2009-01-14T07:44:59.000Z Bev, congrats and thank you for that way of thinking. Hunting should never be for sports, and we should give them the respect they deserve. My family on my Dad's side has been a family of hunters for generations, I guess my Dad was the first to not do it. He did it when he was young, with his grandfather, but other than a small thing to show me how it is done, he never hunted. And I fully understand what you said about many people not knowing milk or meat other form packages.I had kids in my class in third grade that thought exactly that, or another one that thought that chocolate milk came from cows that had eaten chocolate. I was lucky enough to spend quite a bit of time in the country side, where people still grow their own chickens for meat and eggs, and their own lambs, and you could still (at least a few years ago) go buy your milk and watch it being milked from the cow. And I can't think of better milk that that! My Mom would sometimes skim the milk, so she could make some butter with the cream (my mouth is watering up thinking of it) I used to follow the chickens so I could get the eggs right after they laid them, or else I'd run to where they were as soon as I heard them cluck :-) Getting up aly and go pick your breakfast (or part of it) from the tree was a delight too! ## Calia · 2009-01-14T10:18:41.000Z Nice catch, Josephine, nothing like being fat on rabbit. Around where I live, all foods come from the store. The only thing anyone grows is random vegetables, and the only dead animals most people see are what has been hit by a car. What I have seen has been limited to what the cat brought back, and to most people I know, they find it pretty brave of me to even go near it, much less pick it up a remove it. I wish more people around here would hunt for food, but since you can just buy venison already prepped at the store, most hunt for sport. I have found countless headless deer carcasses rotting not too far away from my house. We discovered this from a deer tail one of the cats brought home, and my mother would look at the body and shake her head saying, "What a waste of perfectly good meat." Sorry, ADD.... By the way, I think what Tsukitsune might mean by freezing wild meat is to get rid of any parasites in the animal. Even when not dead, some wild animals can harbor quite a few bad parasites in their systems that can be harmful to anyone not used to having them. That's why they tell you not to feed pet reptiles wild caught mice and insects, and I think it could apply here. I know that whenever my mother bought any meat she would freeze it for a month to get rid of any bacteria, but that could be different since it's been sitting on the shelf. ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2009-01-14T11:03:10.000Z Bev, When we were learning about feeding our shibas raw, we looked into wild game handling because we have a lot of hunters in the family (Pennsylvania = great deer!). What I found was that the info really varies but always comes back to the same point: parasites and bacteria are always present in wild game - whether internal or external on the animal - but its always present. My grandfather always freezes his deer, if just portioned and froze it will be for 8-10 months, if cured or seasoned it will be up to 4-5 months. When we catch (or buy market fresh) fish we use the sushi preparation rules for freezing. We get our rabbit parts from hare-today.com already frozen, so we've never had to handle or prepare wild game rabbit :) I think cooking thoroughly takes care of the parasitic issues, too. I bet Josephine was really happy with her catch!! Some sites: I listed a lot of raw & prep/handling sources on my blog back in July - shibainuspirit.blogspot.com Rabbit - http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/Rabbit\_from\_Farm\_to\_Table/index.asp Sushi prep times - http://www.sushifaq.com/ffaq.htm Deer/Elk - (yes Dave, its a Clemson site) http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/hgic3516.htm There are always reliable posters on the dogster raw forum - http://www.dogster.com/forums/Raw\_Food\_Diet ## baanton · 2009-01-15T00:08:22.000Z Thanks for the information on the idea of freezing and other information on raw feeding... that all makes sense. I recall one time our former dog seemed to pick up a case of the fleas just from consorting with/trying to catch the bunnies in the yard (although I hope the fleas die out in the harsh MN winters... never know though!). I appreciate all the resources... they are interesting to read, and will be kept in mind if we go for the raw feeding. I do think my hubby believes he's pampering the doggy by cooking for her, and even warming up these and other leftovers in the microwave for her, so a raw meal doesn't seem very imminent for Queen Josephine! Josephine is continuing to dine on rabbit mixed with rice (to counteract any tummy issues with the newly introduced food, and to stretch it over a few days)... As my husband put her through her paces tonight (sit, shake, speak, etc. is the ritual before she eats from her bowl), she began to drool over the scent and anticipation of braised bunny with rice! Here's a couple videos of her having fun with a couple different girl doggies (both Basenji mixes, I think) that she met at the off-leash dog park this weekend. Re; the second video, these two (Suzie is the littler dog and Josephine) could not leave each other alone! When it was time for Suzie to leave, she and Josephine tried to continue the "puppy-play" at the end of the dog's leash, and her owner had to pick her up and carry her out of the park! Girls Just Wanna Have Fun --- Dog Park Zoomies!!! Friend Macon (black and white doggie) tries to join the girls, Josephine and Suzie)! (Macon is the one you hear growling at the end of the video, just trying to get the girl's attention!) ## sujewel · 2009-01-15T09:49:33.000Z I have to say, I think Josephine is such a beautiful, amazing dog. My husband's Aunt is a hunter and I fully appreciate her efforts when she bring Venison Sausage to our family gatherings!!! Also don't mind the Venison Pot Roast or the Jerky either, but the sausage is my FAVE. I think I ate the whole dish last time! ## asia · 2009-01-15T23:27:26.000Z Looks like Josephine is really having a great time! Poor Macon... :) ## Sangmort (moderator) · 2009-01-16T04:30:59.000Z Wow! That's a LOT of energy!!! I LOVE it! :D ~ ## brada1878 (admin) · 2009-01-16T13:05:41.000Z Those videos are GREAT! Josephine looks like she is having a blast. ## baanton · 2009-02-01T13:21:44.000Z Here are some recent pics and videos of Josephine. Here she is relaxing at home, and the second one is of her first day experience with a new bed. Funny, it took a day or two to get used to the new "donut" shape, but now she curls right up in it. It helped to put her quilt on it... Here are some videos of Josephine and her friend, Storm, another Kai doggie. at the off-leash park. It was Storm's owners who clued us to Josephine's breed. Storm was celebrating her second b-day yesterday. She is about the same age as Josephine, but a bit slimmer, and has a white patch on her chest (in the videos, Storm has her collar on and Josephine has no collar (she had a small benign growth removed from her neck behind one ear and the vet said to go without the collar as much as possible --- also a bit safer for "doggie-rumbling). Hard to get clear video with the sun and the snow and the zooming doggies, but you get the idea! Enjoy! ## lindsayt · 2009-02-01T14:51:11.000Z Wow, I just saw the bunny-what a hunter and a gorgeous girl to boot. ## Leonberger (admin) · 2009-02-01T15:03:45.000Z She looks great, and she seems to have had a great time with Storm! ## _dlroberts · 2009-02-01T15:13:04.000Z Sorry about Josephine's procedure. I'm glad it was no big deal. It doesn't look like it has slowed her down at all! ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2009-02-01T16:10:42.000Z wow! her and Storm could be twins! --- **Navigate:** [Forum home](https://nihonken.org/community/?format=md) · [Sitemap](https://nihonken.org/community/sitemap.xml)