# Markings/Colors of Nihon Ken

I wondered if it was possible for those with knowledge to post the name of the marking and a color picture for example for each of the Nihon Ken. For example, Shiba Inu can be Cream / White Pinto Red Sesame

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## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-05-19T12:24:50.000Z
I wondered if it was possible for those with knowledge to post the name of the marking and a color picture for example for each of the Nihon Ken. For example, Shiba Inu can be Cream / White Pinto Red Sesame

## kwyld · 2008-05-19T13:58:00.000Z
black brindle Kai

## kwyld · 2008-05-19T13:58:37.000Z
black and tan Shiba

## ivanmeza03 · 2008-05-19T19:00:56.000Z
in Kais BlackNbrindle with a white spot on the chest... like kiba ^.^

## brada1878 (admin) · 2008-05-19T22:28:47.000Z
Black brindle Kai-Ken: Black/Red brindle Akita Inu: (light) Red Akita Inu: Red Sesame [Akagoma] Shikoku-Ken: Black Sesame [Kurogoma] Shikoku-Ken: ----

## brandon_w (admin) · 2008-05-20T11:05:22.000Z
Did something change for posting pictures again? I can't get it to work.

## bigdog01 · 2008-05-20T11:15:44.000Z
red akita inu red brindle akita inu silver brindle akita inu

## Nikkoth · 2008-05-20T13:07:09.000Z
Sesame Shiba red shiba *Also tsukitsune: Your "red sesame" is also called a dirty red because the black tipping does not cover all the red.

## Kaddy · 2008-08-19T05:53:21.000Z
Digging up an old post :o) Keiko doesn't seem to have any black on her coat until the spot on her tail - Just wondering if she's a red or red-sesame? The breeder originally told us red, but on the AKC forms she filled out it says red-sesame. I really don't know, she's a cute pup and I'm happy with her color, but wondering what her coloring really is! *I have no idea if you can tell from the videos/pictures I've posted*

## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-08-19T11:19:17.000Z
A lot of time the colors change with age, I think by 7-8 months or until she's blown her puppy coat you really can't be too sure. I fostered a shiba that was considered just red that had some black hairs in his 'widow's peak' and at the tip of his tail. A shiba like Toby or my Kitsu had black hairs on their face, their tail and on their neck and back which is considered sesame. But then I've seen shibas that have hardly any discernible red in their coats, mostly the dark brown/black/white sesame coat. I guess you might have to wait to find out!

## Kaddy · 2008-08-19T12:18:43.000Z
Kind of exciting :o) Now I'm going to be like a little kid at Christmas waiting impatiently lol!

## Sarako · 2008-08-19T13:07:49.000Z
It's har because a lot of colors had lots of nuances... But nuances are not new colors ! A brindle Akita is brindle before all (it can be red brindle, "silver" brindle -we say "blue" here- , dark brindle...but it's just nuances) A real sesame (Akita) must have black hairs among all the red color (I never seen a real sesam Akita, but one or two dogs who can pretend to this name)

## Kaddy · 2008-09-09T04:36:27.000Z
Well... I've been waiting for changes... and Kieko is starting to give them to me :o) About a week and a half ago I noticed this 'black' ish triangle of fur growing in ... the largest part was from shoulder to shoulder and it tapered to her tail - ... the REALLY crazy thing is NOW the hairs are getting white!!! I know... I'm a doof for being so into her coat changes :o) I took a few pictures so you could see the black/white and her cute lil tail markings! Butt area Shoulders Tail Backline Darkness of the shoulders ... so ... she's registered as Red still... is it a problem if I have to change that?

## Kaddy · 2008-09-09T04:36:58.000Z
And yes... that's my little peanut being a lap hog!

## _dlroberts · 2008-09-09T12:43:33.000Z
:-) I was going to comment on how all of the pictures are of her in your lap. A lot of red Shibas have or develop some darker areas. I think some people refer to them as dirty red. Seasame Shibas look a lot different. They are significantly darker over their entire body. I don't know if its a problem to change her registration, but from the looks of it she is red, not seasame, so it shouldn't be an issue. :-)

## tobyshiba · 2008-09-09T12:47:15.000Z
Toby is registered for the AKC as Red, but he's clearly a Red Sesame. I'm not if you can change it or not?

## ljowen123 (moderator) · 2008-09-09T12:52:01.000Z
Definitely a red, not a sesame. In Toby's case, I'm not sure how the AKC does the registration.

## tobyshiba · 2008-09-09T13:24:14.000Z
Yeah, I have no idea, either. D: They kinda messed up his papers, anyways. His name for everything says Toby X. Not sure if that means anything. xD I just didn't want to change it, because they did the paperwork on my birthday, soo I like it all as is. n___n;

## Honey's mom · 2008-09-09T18:15:41.000Z
Interesting, My shiba has ONE dark spot on her. Just on the inside curl of her tail. But I've noticed that Many red's seem to have that one spot. At least several in pictures I've seen have had it.

## Kaddy · 2008-09-09T21:23:40.000Z
Katie - that's exactly how Keiko's tail was when we first got her, just one spot.... now it's growing lol :o)

## Romi (admin) · 2008-09-09T21:31:56.000Z
I think it may just be me...but I see no black on her except for her tail. It could be that the hairs are too fine though. She looks like a red to me!

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