# Grapes.. how many are toxic? Tsuki is approx 18lbs and was running in a tennis court today and found a pile of dried vine grapes and scarfed down about 3-5 before we could stop her. She was fine then about 6 hours later after our evening walk she came in and vomited ALL of what she had eaten today including pieces of the grape… ## Thread In General · started by tsukitsune · 22 replies - **Category:** [General](https://nihonken.org/community/c/general) - **Forum:** [Nihon Ken Forum](https://nihonken.org/community/) ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-11-29T21:54:52.000Z Tsuki is approx 18lbs and was running in a tennis court today and found a pile of dried vine grapes and scarfed down about 3-5 before we could stop her. She was fine then about 6 hours later after our evening walk she came in and vomited ALL of what she had eaten today including pieces of the grapes. I'm not sure whether or not to take her to the e-vet because I'm not sure if her vomiting was from over playing or in response to the grape ingestion. Any insight? How many/what kind of grapes are toxic? Thank you ## ljowen123 (moderator) · 2008-11-29T22:13:48.000Z I have no idea. ## Harlow · 2008-11-29T22:26:26.000Z You might want to read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grape\_and\_raisin\_toxicity\_in\_dogs ## MommyofNiko · 2008-11-29T22:58:03.000Z I would at the very least call the vet, especially with the vomiting. ## hondru (moderator) · 2008-11-30T00:33:49.000Z My rule is: If in doubt, call the vet and follow their instructions. There have been times when I've been panicking and I call the vet and they say don't worry unless this this and this happen. Then I can relax and I know what to watch for. Or, if it IS a big deal, you want to know right away and not have to guess. ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-11-30T00:43:53.000Z we called the e-vet who preferred we call poison control who advised us to watch her water intake and vomit/stool. If she has diahrea or more vomiting into tomorrow we're taking her to the e-vet. Its a little scary, something as seemingly harmless as wild vine grapes.. but right now she's sleeping so I'm just going to watch for any harmful renal indications. Thanks for the wiki link, it has more definitive info than most websites!! ## okiron · 2008-11-30T03:58:46.000Z Well to give you some positive news, when we first got Bacon (the family dog) my mother didn't know grapes were toxic to dogs so she'd give him grapes now and then because he loved them. She obviously doesn't do it anymore but he's 8 years old going on 9 with no issues whatsoever with his health and he was about a year old when we were doing it. ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-11-30T11:07:08.000Z well that is positive news! my mom's dog (honey, terrier mix 11lbs) has probably eaten quite a few grapes in her lifetime and she's 14! extra survival stories help - thank you!!!! Tsuki ate this AM then had normal 'business' on her walk so I'm staying positive as long as that food stays down!! ## kwyld · 2008-11-30T11:24:02.000Z I used to give my dogs raisins/grapes once in awhile a long time ago before I knew they were toxic and they don't seem to have any renal issues from it to date. I'm glad Tsuki is acting normal, she'll probably be fine, that's probably good that she vomited pieces of them that day. Another survival story: my co-worker's 55 lb dog ate an entire loaf or raisin cinnamon bread with ICING and stayed here for a few days on fluids, and his renal panels are normal. ## Sangmort (moderator) · 2008-11-30T16:00:51.000Z Aww glad to hear Tsuki's feeling better! I had no idea grapes were toxic for dogs. :( ~ ## lindsayt · 2008-12-01T07:35:05.000Z Well, all I can say is I have seen breeds like dachshunds and labs develop facial edema, trouble swallowing and hives over the entire body within minutes of eating just a few grapes. This is the sort of reaction that I would say merits going to the e-vet or your regular vet within minutes for antihystamines. I don't recall any other issues with grape eating other than hives and swelling which were succesfully treated with benadryl. It's probably good she vomited. ## brandon_w (admin) · 2008-12-01T10:51:31.000Z I think it takes a lot of grapes to become toxic. I hope Tsuki is doing better toady. ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-12-01T11:09:22.000Z Lindsay: The reason I panicked is because if left untreated, there have been several cases where dogs rapidly develop acute renal failure! Our emergency vet told us to watch for signs of abdominal distress, no eating, additional vomiting and increased fluid intake. She had none of the above since she vomited thank God. She is doing much better, she's eating and doing everything else normal. PHEW! Be wary of grapes (and raisins)!!!! ## lindsayt · 2008-12-01T12:19:50.000Z Gosh, I guess somehow I missed learning of renal failure being associated with grapes among other things. Glad she is better, close call. ## JessicaRabbit (admin) · 2008-12-01T12:29:51.000Z http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dtoxin.html#Grape and raisin poisonings in Dogs ## _dlroberts · 2008-12-01T15:28:35.000Z Wow. I'm very late, but I'm glad Tuski seems to be doing well. I just wanted to mention, for those of you who have your dog microchipped....If you register with Home Again for $15/year you get unlimited free calls to the ASPCA poison control line (which can cost $60/call if you don't have a membership). I have it programed in my cellphone just in case. ## okiron · 2008-12-01T15:33:48.000Z Thanks Dave, I didn't know that. ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-12-01T15:33:57.000Z hmm... i wonder if Avid or Petrac have that option? Thats who we are registered with. ## JessicaRabbit (admin) · 2008-12-01T17:49:46.000Z thanks! I didn't know that ## ShikokuSpirit (moderator) · 2008-12-01T18:58:00.000Z I've probably fed Lynx more then just 5 grapes as a pup! Thank goodness no ill effects what so ever. Of course I find out after the fact that they are poisonness. Tsuki should be fine. Since when does one have to pay an outrageous price for a phone call? I don't get it, tis very strange to me. ## JessicaRabbit (admin) · 2008-12-01T19:02:18.000Z The reason the phone call costs so much is you actually speak WITH vets. I have used them 3 times and they are worth every penny. ## tsukitsune (moderator) · 2008-12-01T19:09:03.000Z I've used the poison control once (a foster licked drain-o) and it was worth the $$ as well! Saved us both! Tsuki's still doing well :) ## baanton · 2008-12-01T23:53:50.000Z I'm so glad Tsuki is OK! Good thinking to check in with the vet immediately, especially with the vomiting. Seems like like maybe the vomiting was for the best before the digestive process allowed the toxins to course through her body. I did not know grapes were toxic, either, until I joined this forum. When our former dog, Joe, was young he loved to eat grapes (well, at least like to take them from the kids when they threw them to him... perhaps just a great big game to him!). I worried that he would choke on one, so I made our kids cut them in half before they threw them to Joe. He would catch them in his mouth, and then down the hatch they'd go! He never seemed to have any ill effects (none of the symptoms your vet said to watch out for). We used to call him the Minnesota Mutt, meaning that through the years and generations of "natural selection" and inter-breed mixing he seemed he could handle just about anything -- maybe that made him immune to the ill effects of grapes! Anyway, no grapes in Josephine's life --- she has seemed to have a much more sensitive stomach in a lot of ways compared to Joe --- maybe our theory about him was right! --- **Navigate:** [Forum home](https://nihonken.org/community/?format=md) · [Sitemap](https://nihonken.org/community/sitemap.xml)