shedding

edited August 2008 in General
ok so roxy my shiba has been shedding like she's going bald, my mom is freaking out over it and I'm a lil conserned as well, she has/had some blad spots on her ear I just wanna know if she is just doing her shedding cause its so hot were we are, she has been shedding for a couple months, since like june or so...so its been going on for a long time, we took her to the vet and they gave her some meds but its not fungal nor is it mange so we're stumped at what to do the meds didn't help at all.
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  • edited November -1
    Maybe it's a food allergy? What are you feeding her? It might also be helpful if you try & post a few pictures :) ~
  • edited August 2008
    bald spots, as I understand it, are not normal. we can try to guestimate by deduction, but I'd take her to the vet if her hair is coming out in clumps and her undercoat is looking shoddy, or there are bald spots or red spots.
    **sorry, just re-read your post. What are the meds for?

    How are you brushing her hair? how often? with what?

    are you bathing her? do you use anything?

    do you use any ear cleaning product or flea/tick meds?

    what type of food do you feed?
  • edited November -1
    Well since you mention this, her health could be causing her to destructive chew and be stressed also. Is she spayed?.....Some hormonal changes can cause problems as well.

    I agree with Tsukitsune, It sounds like she could use a check up with the vet.

    Snf
  • edited November -1
    I second Jen's food question - what do you feed her?
  • edited August 2008
    I feed her iams dry food with cesar puppy wet food on top only food she will eat we just bathed her like a week ago with flea and tick medicated shampoo. it could be stress related since we recently moved and no she isn't spayed we want to let her have a litter of puppies before we spay her. *edit* no her hair isn't comeing out in clump nor does she any major bald spots except on her ears and those are minor. her hair as in her belly and undercoat is the coat that is shedding I at first thought it was because of the heat we live in nc were in the summer it pretty hot.
  • edited November -1
    if she possibly has food allergies and a not so desirable coat condition, why are you choosing to breed her?
  • edited November -1
    Yes, please find out what is going on with her coat before you decide to breed her. I would take her to an allergy specialist or at the very least, a different vet. I don't agree with them giving meds to your dog without really knowing what the problem is.
  • edited November -1
    - blinks - Unless you are an experienced breeder of Shiba Inu, and plan to better the breed, breeding your Shiba Inu before spaying will not do any good for your dog. If you spay before any heat begins, you greatly cut the risk of cancers and tumors in that area. And contributing to the growing pet population is also a bad thing, unless you know the puppies will get forever homes and generally know what your doing as far as breeding is concerned.

    Also, while some have no issues with Iams, most Shibas have food allergies and have sensitive bowels. You might want to look into getting a food that has actual meat, and not watered down soupy dead unwanted parts. Theres a lot of really excellent dog foods out there, you just got to do the research. Some good dog foods are: Innova, Canidae, Eagle Pack, Orijen, Wellness.
  • edited November -1
    well she had that shedding problem before we moved so do you think it could be something in her bedding? she's had the same bed since we got her we did find out she can't eat hamburger with out getting extremely sick. we're going to try and start weining her off of her puppy foods. so hopefully when we change her food it will have just been an allergy to that food I hope it's not a condition since everyone that meets her wants her or one of her puppies
  • edited November -1
    To be frank, breeding is best left to professionals. Unless you are willing to spend the thousands of dollars on genetic testing and certification of the processes, (and all of this only with a 100% healthy dog) you would be further damaging the breed. There are NO HEALTH BENEFITS for a female having a litter prior to spaying and in many cases it causes more problems.

    I WOULD STRONGLY DISCOURAGE IF NOT BEG YOU TO RECONSIDER BREEDING YOUR DOG, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT IS ALREADY HAVING HEALTH PROBLEMS SO EARLY IN HER LIFE
  • edited November -1
    right perhaps it is better not to breed her. I do know that we'll probably get another one later on i'd really like to get a male and a black/brown one and name him something cool like nisuru or perhaps urusin cause I like those names. LOL.
  • edited August 2008
    Please listen to Jessica and at least weigh the options from there.
    You may have a dog that you like and get asked about constantly - everyone on this forum gets a lot of attention because of their dogs, that doesn't mean we all want to breed them.

    Think about this: A dog is a companion for 12-16 years of your life. You want those years to be filled with fun and joy and health, right? Professional, respectable breeders work for years to better the breed and health and overall appearance of a dog. they spend tons of money doing genetic testing to make sure the dogs have healthy legs, knees, hips, eyes and have no congenital diseases or genetic defects. Then these dogs must prove themselves in appearance and temperament and be put to the test in an AKC or ARBA show ring, judged and strive to become a champion. Pups are then planned far in advance for a female who is of proper (2+ years) age who is a champion and a completely different bloodline male who also has champion qualities or titles. Selection is crucial and their breeding programs are very complicated and efficient. From these breeders only do we get an amazing longtime companion. Monetary gain is the LAST thing on a reputable breeder's mind. The integrity and betterment of the breed comes first.

    People who are not breeders but love their dog and want to have the 'experience' of a litter are called Back Yard Breeders, that is not a respectable term and any prospective shiba owner who knows what kind of dog they want will not come to you, they will go to the above breeder because they want excellence in temperament, health, looks and overall well being.

    Breeding is not something to be taken lightly.

    As Jessica stated, there are NO health benefits to waiting for a female to have a litter before spaying her. In fact, you only do harm by adding to the overpopulation of animals in shelters. I urge you to speak to your veterinarian about why you should spay your female shiba and not after she's had her first heat or a litter.

    You can have shibas, many of them, all spayed and neutered, living happily with one another. Get that male shiba, but only after you have spayed your female and work on her health and temperament issues (if there are any). I like the names you have picked out already! But consider the male as a playmate to Roxy and a companion for you, and if you can commit to a second dog, do it for those reasons, not to get a male breeder dog.

    You can tell those people who want a shiba pup that they can find respectable, reputable experienced breeders by doing a little research about the breed and finding a breeder that suits them. You will be doing the breed a great service by educating the public on the Shiba Inu and how to find a great breeder for a wonderful companion dog.
  • edited November -1
    ok well I have question for Jessica were do u live? our breeder we got our pup from was also named Jessica
  • edited November -1
    I'm fairly certain they are completely different Jessicas...
  • edited November -1
    Either way, please listen to the suggestions and don't ignore them. We're concerned for the health of the dog. Putting the burden of pregnancy on a dog that already has quite a few health issues is really not the best choice to make. Please do the right thing for your dog. Get her spayed ASAP. :(
  • edited November -1
    we made a desion (spelling) and we're going to. as soon as we get home well with in that week an ya it's a diff person. btw I wnabt a shiba that looks like Moto : p
  • edited November -1
    I am definitely not her. I work at an animal shelter. Moto is actually a rescue from New York. He was found in the city pound in fact as an owner surrender. Further proof that great dogs don't need to be bought they can be rescued.

    Moto (knocking on wood) is healthy as a horse, is great with everyone (including children and other dogs), and is really a super sweet boy. Other than being a shiba inu (meaning he is still planning on taking over the world as we speak) he is close to perfect.
  • edited November -1
    I am really glad that you have decided to have Roxy spayed. Everyone has given you excellent advice. Please pay attention to what Shiba owners are telling you. I agree with Steph in that there are much better choices for food out there. There is a thread here on the forum discussing different foods. Good luck in helping Roxy with her allergies or whatever is causing her to have bald spots.
  • edited August 2008
    now she doesn't have "blad spots" except on the back of her ears everywhere else its just like she is losing her undercoat. and I just found this out I thought she was a red shiba but no infact she is a seasme her tail on the back is almost completley black, which is weird since both her parents are red shibas. I'm gunna try and get some pics of her up mabe start a roxy spam thread...also thanks for all ur help, when we get home we're gunna try a different food, how is beniful? I know she likes that pretty good, then agian she likes most food heh. here is a quick pic
  • edited November -1
    you can go to dogfoodproject.com and dogfoodanalysis.com or buy articles off of whole-dog-journal.com to find out about different kibbles, what their ingredients mean and how to overcome food allergies.
  • edited November -1
    Beneful is another food that is ... made by a not-so-awesome company. The contents include by-products.

    The foods I mentioned earlier are the kinds of foods to look into.
    Just think of it this way. If you can buy the dog food at the grocery store or another cheap place, then its most likely commercial/bad dog food. Look for holistic or grain free food at the pet store. If she does have allergies, most puppy foods have a chicken base. You might want to switch to a different meat ingredient.
  • edited November -1
    ok, only thing is I've never heard nor sean any of those foods, what are some more common one cause the closest pet store is atleast 20min away in another town, so most of the time we have to get petfood at the grocery store.
  • edited November -1
    I would consider cooking her food then. We no longer buy our dogs dog food. They had rabbit, kale, collards, beets, and pumpkin for dinner tonight (one of my awesome neighbors bought Piglet a get-well-soon rabbit so we gave some to the other monsters, Piggy will get the rest when she comes home tomorrow)

    Before we switched though we drove an hour and a half to buy Orijen.

    Also check out K9cuisine.com Free shipping for purchases over $50
  • edited November -1
    20 minutes isn't that long of a drive. I drive 35 or so minutes to get Toby's bag of Wellness. And the Orijen dog food I plan on getting is also 30 minutes away in the other direction. That god the distributor is 'close'.

    Going 20 minutes out of your way once a month isn't going to kill your gas tank, and it would certainly improve the quality of life for your dog.
  • edited November -1
    hmm what would you sugest cooking her? that is realativly inexpensive and easy to cook, also how to you cook it?
  • edited November -1
    i think before you can start doing home cooked you NEED to make sure you know what nutrients your dog needs, appropriate foods for the dog, and how you will be able to provide that for her through the home cooked meals.
    do some internet research, talk to your vet or find a holistic vet or canine nutritionist, and there is also a home cooked forum on dogster.com to help get meal ideas when you get to that point.
  • edited November -1
    Basically pick a meat, I use (turkey, duck, rabbit, cod, chicken, venison, pheasant) all parts (organs to) and roast it. I then pull it apart and mix it with steamed vegetables. I try to always include a good dark leafy green, and sweet potatoes. My dogs also love beets so I throw those in to. I do a 50/50 ratio meat to veggies. NO GRAIN that includes rice. I make about 3 days worth of food at a time.

    You are only feeding one dog so it will be WAY cheaper for you too, I am feeding 3 dogs, so it can be a little expensive. But the way I see it, I am prolonging their lives and it is cheaper than chemo (part of why so many dogs are dying of cancer now a days are crappy diets).
  • edited November -1
    now you said no grain but every dog food I look at contains brown rice and other grains....is this bad?
  • edited November -1
    VERY VERY VERY
    It is just filler. IF you eliminate grain from your dogs diet your dogs immediately need to eat less and poop less

    Go to this link and read this...
    http://www.championpetfoods.com/orijen/documents/ORIJEN_White_paper.pdf
  • edited November -1
    ok so what veggitables do sugest I kno sweet potatos but like what should feed her in the way of dogfood that we can easily find
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