Which breed is who?

edited January 2011 in General
As of the time of this writing (just after 11am Arizona time), I am wondering this: Brad or anyone else, for my tracking convenience, could tell me which breed are who for Brad's dogs? He frequently will mention their names here, but with him having so many, I lose track which NK type they are?

Also, how does an Ovcharka breed compare to other Molosser-types like the Newfoundland, Great Dane, Boxer, St. Bernard, and English Mastiff in regards to temperament?

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  • Any specific name you were curious about? You can usually tell by context what the breeds are if he doesn't say directly.
  • Just the general names he mentions like Koda.
  • edited January 2011
    Koda is Tara's Kai Ken :P

    I think Brad has a separate thread for most of his dogs, with pics, updates, etc.
  • Kodi, Naum, Masha, Luytiy - Ovcharka
    Kaia, Maui - Shiba
    Loa, Ahi, Kaiju - Shikoku
    Kona, Ritsu, Ayu, Nio - Kai
    Blue, Zeta - Cane Corso
    Chase - human
    :-p


    Jesse
  • Jesse, too funny "Chase, human" ...and a baby girl.
  • He used to have it all in his signature, but I think it got to be a bit much. :oP
  • An Ovcharka is a serious guardian. Nefwies and the others you mentioned,
    are not. They can all make nice pets, but the CO is the only one that is still
    a purpose bred working guard on top of that, so they retain a high degree of human
    aggression towards strangers and will rely on their own judgment in evaluation of threats.
    Its a level of intensity and liability that isn't something most people need in their lives, and a large breed
    like the English Mastiff that is more "obedient" but still has a good physical
    presence, is more than an adequate, and much safer, deterrent. Brad can add
    way more insight then I can, however.
  • Koda is mine lol
  • Ooh, Jesse forgot to add Kumi to the Kai Kens :P
  • edited January 2011
    I was bound to miss at least one of the Kai's! LOL

    Oh I think I've seen him still there:
    Kahuna - Akita

    Jesse
  • Chibi - Kai
  • edited January 2011
    Pretty close!

    Kodi, Naum, Masha, Luytiy, Leila - Ovcharka (working dogs)
    Kaia, Maui - Shiba Inu
    Loa, Ahi, Kaiju, Cho Cho - Shikoku Ken
    Kona, Ritsu, Ayu, Nio, Chibi, Kumi - Kai Ken
    Blue - Cane Corso (working dog)
    Kahuna - Akita Inu
    Chase - human

    Zeta lives with some close friends in Taos now. Kodi, Leila, and maybe Naum will be going to live with Stacey in Feb.

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    As for Ovcharka, I don't have much to add, Lindsay said most of it.

    The breeds you listed as comparison are all kinda mainstream breeds, the Ovcharka, at least in America, is not very mainstream.

    Also most of those breeds in your list are not guardian breeds, the CO is a guardian breed, so obviously there will be some big differences comparing a non-guarding breed with a guardian breed let alone comparing all of the breeds you mentioned to the CO.

    Then there are subsets in the guardian breed category too - like herders, LGD, and PPD.

    In general I would say the CO is similar to the other LGD breeds in basic temperament but with some add man-aggression and a healthy defensive instinct and an intent to follow through (not just bluff). Like other LGD, CO are not as sticky as many short haired molosser-types.

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  • Hey Birthday Boy!
    Kinda hard to keep your pack pinned down when you keep adding to them! You got 48 hours to put up SPAM of Cho-Cho! :-P

    Jesse
  • I agree with Jesse. Happy Birthday and what's the story behind Cho-Cho?
  • I'll make a post about her tomorrow. I just got back from Denver with her. Picked her up today.
  • I'm teasing you! Enjoy your birthday for God sakes!

    Jesse
  • You still have Chibi? I thought she was with Peggy hehe.
  • Nearly 20 dogs? While the uninformed may call that animal hoarding, I call that a very responsible family.
  • Isn't that the second time you mentioned hoarding and Brad in the same context? For someone who says they "call that a very responsible family" why don't you stop bringing that ugly word up ;)
  • I want Chibi!!! Lol
  • edited January 2011
    We held on to Chibi because she is very shy and we didn't think she should be bred. There are too many shy kai in the states already.

    We're gonna give Peggy a better matched female, just not sure who. Maybe from a Kumi breeding or maybe a new import.

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    Tara, Chibi loved you when you visited. If you want her she's yours. We want her in a home that understands shy kai.

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  • Tara, take her!! :)
  • That is a bummer she is so shy. Good decision though, as there are alot of shy kai already and no sense breeding more of that into the breed.
  • aykayk
    edited January 2011
    Any chance the shyness may be be related to her being swapped with her sister?

    What is her shyness like? Does she freak out at strange things and not recover?
  • This is definitely something to think about. Chibi took a piece of my heart that day. I really liked her, shy girl and all. It was probably her shyness that I liked.

    @ayk, Brad can definitely answer better, but from what I saw she did not have a high level of anxiety. She was a typical Kai in her shyness with people. She did well with the other Kais. She is pretty typical of what I have always seen, but I can definitely see why Kumi and Ayu would be a better fit for breeding. They are very outgoing and lovable. They attach themselves to humans as well as other dogs.

    I kind've forced Chibi into letting me hold her and love on her. I just picked her up and started snuggling. She did well though. Just hung out until it was time to play again.

    It is a bit sad, a Kona x Chibi pup would be one good looking Kai!!! But I can see how the pups probably wouldn't be outgoing.

    Mei as crazy and outgoing as she is with Koda and the family is extremely shy with people and other dogs. I'm always so proud when she breaks out of her shell and lets her mohawk down.
  • @tjbart17 - Think about it and let me know!

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    @ayk - Tara pretty much wrote what I would write...

    Chibi is very loving and likes human attention, but she is also very easily spooked. So, if there is a loud noise or a lot of commotion she just bolts, she recovers, but that initial flight reflex and then the amount of time it takes for her to recover is not something I would want to reproduce. Because of my "whateverness", that makes dogs a little unsure of me, I have to work exceptionally hard to get Chibi to even come up to me. Once she does, she is fine - even cute and loving - but it's a task to get there.

    I guess she is very sensitive to pressure... Example: if I am standing by her crate she will not go into her crate, I have to walk away from her crate and then she will go right in and wait for me to shut the door. There has been no bad experiences with me, the crate, and Chibi - she was like this from day 1.

    Compare that to the others, who are bouncing off me trying to get me to play with them, and it makes her shyness very obvious. If we didn't have so many other Kai to compare to we might not think it was such a big deal, but when we look at them as a group Chibi's shyness becomes a "red flag".

    If she was a male I might still breed her, but a female being that shy it just seems like too high of a risk that she will pass that on to her pups during gestation (as well as via inheritance). JMHO

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  • edited January 2011
    Chibi is very loving and likes human attention, but she is also very easily spooked. So, if there is a loud noise or a lot of commotion she just bolts, she recovers, but that initial flight reflex

    Just like Koda was.......
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