CGC with a reactive dog?

I've been thinking of the CGC test again, this time with Toby. I'd intended to get him in a one-on-one training class before all Bel's health issues occurred in the spring, so I'm thinking about it again. He needs something to do, since he's mostly alone in his room since he can't be with the other dogs. I think we'd both enjoy the time together.

Here's some quick background on Toby's brand of reactivity. He is calm with people and at 7 years old, he's pretty a pretty mellow Shiba. He walks well on a leash, and learns super fast with clicker training--super food motivated. I think I could get him to learn most of the CGC stuff pretty easily. But he's always dog reactive. He won't tolerate any other dogs of any age. That said, his usual reaction is to ignore other dogs and make appeasing gestures (turn his head away, lick his lips, etc). If a dog gets in his personal space (which seems to be a circle around him of about, say 3-4 feet) he will growl, and if the dog continues to approach, he'll turn into a snarling Shiba demon.

He also doesn't like his feet touched by anyone, including me, and will growl for that. He usually won't come when called, but in the past year or so, he's been SUPER good about coming if he knows there is a cookie involved, so now I say "cookie" and he comes.

I feel like we can work past some of his issues. I think I can get a better recall with him. A down stay will be a challenge, but he'll likely do it unless there were other dogs around--if that were the case he'd feel too threatened, I think, to stay. But I still see this as something we can work on. Same with the paws....lots of treats and clicks should get him past it.

The dog reactivity is a bit more problematic.

So I figured someone here must have worked on the CGC with a reactive dog. Successes? Suggestions? Should I just take Toby to a class (individual class--he couldn't do a group class) and have fun with him and not worry about a test that he's not likely to pass anyway?

Comments

  • Do the class but don't worry about passing the test. Passing the test is a bonus, but it sounds like he would simply enjoy just spending time working with you.
  • Personally, I think that even though he would enjoy doing stuff with you some of the tasks required may be too stressful for him. The other dog may potentially get pretty close to him as one part of the test has you walking Toby past another dog and then walking back and "chatting" with the other handler, both dogs needing to remain calm and ignore each other.

    If he has issues with people touching him and dogs nearby, maybe you should consider taking classes in something that is less interactive with others, such as tracking, agility, etc.
  • You can definitely take the class and not worry about passing the test. If you think Toby would like it, then go for it. You know your dog better than we do.

    I'm not sure what your resources are around there, but here I have a place that I can rent the agility room for $15 for a half hour on off times. Sometimes Koda and I will book the room and just have some fun with the course and play around.
  • After Toby's recent incident with Bel (on the Shiba side....let's just say there was a fight but no one was hurt thankfully), I'm going to scrap this idea. The class would be fun, though, but I won't even bother trying to think of it as more than something good to do with him. Every interaction he has with other dogs has been negative for so long that I think it has really reinforced his belief that other dogs = BAD! Danger! and it's quite stressful for him to be around them, so we'll think of further training as me and Toby time and not try to work toward something that would be too much for him.
  • Lisa, have you heard of Nose Work? I attended a workshop a few months ago and found it to be a great activity to do with dogs. It is usually done on leash, but there is no jerking around. The leash is to keep the dog from wandering away and only one dog will be working, so reactive dogs can participate as well. It encourages dogs to use their olfactory sense and can be really fun for dogs of all ages and health conditions.

    You can find more info here, http://www.funnosework.com/.

    Another reason I like Nose Work is it does not require a lot of special equipment to get started. All you need is just a few boxes of different size and shape, a leash, some yummy treats and your dog.
  • edited June 2011
    @ Sandra888 That is a great reminder to get paper work in. I plan to put my older dog in class next month. We shall see how that goes for her.

    I know the NW classes they have here are super and they make sure the
    classes are small and dogs remain crated when not working.

    I just tripped across this http://www.dogstardaily.com/blogs/getting-started-nose-work
    Snf

  • The behavioralist I worked with told me about Nose Work, but I hadn't checked it out yet, but it is a great idea! Toby LOVES food, so he would enjoy that!

    He's also a pretty confident dog away from other dogs. He's not scared by people or new situations. He's gotten quite friendly with people, too, as he's gotten older (kids aside. Kids scare him).
  • Here is a link and some descriptions on how this org works it for training. http://www.k9nosework.com/workshopsnationwide.html
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