@ayk Look at that GSDs back legs. They are not like the GSDs today whose backs are hunched and back legs are almost curled up looking to me. They look so much different to me than the dogs I grew up with. This is more like what I remember as a kid. Preservation has changed the breed.
I don't know the politics or process. I just see the change.
I don't know how much truth there is to this, but someone had told me that, world-wide, the GSD went downhill faster when the palisade (straight wall) was replaced with an A-frame in Schutzhund.
So when I hear stories of NK jumping fences or walking on top of fences like a cat, a part of me says yeah!
Wow AMAZING! The german shepherd is truly a great breed, and SHAME, SHAME, SHAME on humans for what they've done to it! I really think it's sad that they have those extreme angles! If we don't try to breed back to the original type it will end really bad!
I can definately see having another GSD someday, but I'd be very picky about what lines! The grey GSD has less extreme angles than the brown/black variant.
I love the German Shepherds from the early 1900's! That's kinda why I don't own a GSD today because I can't find the proper structure type that I've been seeking. So I got into Belgian Malinois instead -shrugs-. I loved the video, thanks for sharing!
I think it's working lines vs. AKC style, and not really related to color so much. At least in the US--it could be different elsewhere. My GSD was from Dutch working lines, and though he had health issues (a good sire--schuthund champion-- was bred with an unhealthy bitch by a BYB), he was pretty straight backed, and was about 90 pounds. He could jump, too! He loved jumps in agility, though we never got that high!
And my best friend's GSD comes from czech lines, and he is a sable, and is pretty straight backed. He's about the same size as my boy was, and he is SUPER healthy--never even had allergies, or anything at all, and he's 8 now. His breeder also only raw feeds.....so he's never even eaten kibble, except once when he was at a kennel...
You can still get classic (and healthy!) GSDs in the US, but you have to look, and you have to buy a working line pup.
They are wonderful dogs, but so NOT the dog for me. A little too needy, and desirous of having work to do.
The Czech GSD's are some nice dogs but crazy, hardcore drive! Tis' good though. From what I understand they are more serious working dogs then "sport dogs". Excellent for law enforcement.
@ShikokuSpirit - I thought of you the other day at Tikaani's OB class. A friend of the trainer was visiting and she attended the class with her Czech line GSD. He was a young, gorgeous dog who was just so intense during class. Even after a 2hr class, he was still pushing her to for more.
Actually, the trainer for the classes Tikaani goes to got a GSD puppy back in June. His mom comes from US schutzhund lines while the dad is from herding lines in Europe. This pup has good focus, but not as intense as I usually see.
My GSD was pretty soft, and also not pure working lines, though he was pretty obsessive about playing ball. The breeder my friend go her dog from sells PPDs and Schutzhund dogs too, and I remember when my friend was looking for a pup, the breeder said she'd have to check out the litter to see if there was a softer, less focused pup for her, because she said many of her dogs would be "too much dog" for a pet home if that home didn't include a canine sport.
I've seen some of the GSDs though that almost have the drive of a Malinois....And then I had a friend that had a really drivey Malinois that had been trained for PPD, but ended up not quite making it there, and the dog was then placed in a pet home (my friend's home). That dog was so intense it was crazy!
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I don't know the politics or process. I just see the change.
My Ramm was from Czechoslovakia and he had a straight back. He was 26 inches at the shoulder and 110 lbs in his prime.
So when I hear stories of NK jumping fences or walking on top of fences like a cat, a part of me says yeah!
I can definately see having another GSD someday, but I'd be very picky about what lines! The grey GSD has less extreme angles than the brown/black variant.
The GSD in the video looks more like a mal or dutchie to me then todays modern show GSD tho lol ~
http://dmqg0yef478ix.cloudfront.net/51/b6/i24098385._szw425h320_.jpg
http://www.analrundfart.dk/files/per/Sommerhus/IMG_0267.jpg
Compared to the "regular" GSD they have much less extreme angles:
http://www.chrisco.dk/Files/Billeder/hund/Milj/Schæfer_på_mark_-_afrundet.jpg
http://www.wildmarken.dk/images/IMG_3459.JPG
But the sable (called black in Denmark) also has less angulation and both the grey and the black/sable are workinglines...
And my best friend's GSD comes from czech lines, and he is a sable, and is pretty straight backed. He's about the same size as my boy was, and he is SUPER healthy--never even had allergies, or anything at all, and he's 8 now. His breeder also only raw feeds.....so he's never even eaten kibble, except once when he was at a kennel...
You can still get classic (and healthy!) GSDs in the US, but you have to look, and you have to buy a working line pup.
They are wonderful dogs, but so NOT the dog for me. A little too needy, and desirous of having work to do.
Actually, the trainer for the classes Tikaani goes to got a GSD puppy back in June. His mom comes from US schutzhund lines while the dad is from herding lines in Europe. This pup has good focus, but not as intense as I usually see.
I've seen some of the GSDs though that almost have the drive of a Malinois....And then I had a friend that had a really drivey Malinois that had been trained for PPD, but ended up not quite making it there, and the dog was then placed in a pet home (my friend's home). That dog was so intense it was crazy!