Poor Loki!

edited March 2008 in General
Yesterday, Loki started tilting his head to one side and as the day went on, he started getting clumsy and stumbling around and refusing to eat. I called the vet and they said it's most likely vestibular disease, which can be caused by an inner ear infection, swelling of the brain, hypothyroidism, cancer, or it can be idiopathic (no apparent reason), especially in old dogs. Most likely, it is either an infection or simply a sign that he is aging.



He has also been showing signs of arthritis (as I said in my other thread). He's been licking his joints after walks and has been refusing to jump over the baby gate. He's also a little slower getting up from lying down and Noah says he's been having to help him get over obstacles on their daily walks sometimes.



I made an appointment for him on Thursday, so we'll see what the vet says.



I'm starting to feel sad as Loki's age is becoming apparent. I guess dogs tend to deteriorate quickly because of their short lifespans, so it just kind of snuck up on me. I'm sure he still has a year or two left, but I think he's officially an old man!  At 8 years old, I suppose it's not abnormal, it's just jarring to suddenly be made aware of his mortality, especially considering he was the first dog I ever had, so I've never had a dog die before.  
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  • edited November -1


    Ugh, I don't know how to phrase this nicely, but a friend thought his dog had this recently.  Unfortunatley the dog had actually had a stroke.


    I am hoping for much better for Loki, my thoughts are with you and Loki.


    Watching pets age is not an easy thing to do.

  • edited November -1


    Aww, Heidi. With the exclamation point at the end of the title of this thread I was thinking it was going to be something cute. Now I'm sad. Cry Aging is something that is inevitable and even though Lucy (my first pet other than goldfish) is only 16 months old, I still in the back of my mind realize that I'm going to have to see her through her life stages before I'm ready to.


    Think of this as a new chapter in Loki's life...a new beginning to something great. And remember what a great dog he is.


    And damn it, quit it with those misleading titles! Tongue out

  • edited November -1


    That must be the hardest thing when you have a pet - or the 2nd hardest - it's worse when they die unexpectedly at a young age. I personally don't feel there much difference between grieving for a human or feline/canine loved one.


    The point is that you've had him for 9 great years where you've made each other happy and that's what counts.  


    Big good luck for the vet appointment! Hugs! 

  • edited March 2008


    Heidi, I have seen a 13 year old Chow with severe vestibular disease to the point where she couldn't walk come into this clinic and make it through and is still alive.  I believe it all happened because of severe bi-lateral ear infections that the dog was having for many years.  But anyway she is alive and well so don't be thinking the worst just yet.  Hopefully the vet visit will shine more light on what is exactly going on with him and why this is happening.  Don't be afraid to get a second opinion if you feel the vet's diagnoses doesn't sound right.  Good luck with Loki, I'll be thinking about you!  

  • edited November -1


    Thanks for the encouragement.  I'm just hoping that he bounces back and has a few more years left.  


    Brandon - I read about dog strokes, and you might be right.  I noticed today that he's drooling out of the one side of his mouth and his lips are droopy on that side of his face.  That kind of worries me.  

  • edited November -1
    Awww..poor Loki.  Im sure everything will be fine and he'll get through this.  Good luck at the vet on Thursday, I hope its nothing serious and easily cured. 
  • edited November -1


    *huggies to you and Loki*


    as you've noticed, i suck at words of encouragement. im a hugger Undecided

  • edited November -1
    I'm sorry Heidi. Frown Give Loki some love for us and let us know as soon as you find out what the issue is.
  • edited November -1
    Please let us know how the appt goes and give Loki lotsa love from us all.
  • edited November -1
    Good luck, Heidi. I'm sure the vet will know what to do, and in meanwhile give that boy some extra love.
  • edited November -1
    We had a bouvier that had strokes as he got older. He went a while between his first and later ones. He recovered a lot from that on, as he had more he was kind of like the doddering grandpa - just went with the flow, still loved being around us, just a little bit absentminded. We did start having to feed him in the kitchen, where we could clean the walls, since with the drool, when he'd eat he'd shake his head, and drool would go all over the place. So, not uncommon for people who have dogs that drool all the time anyway, we just weren't used to it. Anyway, my point is, it was fine, different, but still good. Good luck with the vet appt!
  • edited November -1
    I'm taking Loki to a vet today rather than waiting until tomorrow.  The first vet I called said it wasn't urgent and I could wait, but I guess I'd rather take him in sooner.  Plus, my mom and little sister want to come to the appointment, so I'm taking him into town where they live, which is an hour's drive away, but that's the vet he used to go to and they could get me in the same day.  So I should have an update later tonight.
  • edited November -1
    i hope everything goes alright.  Keep us updated heidi.
  • edited November -1
    Best of luck, I'm glad you are getting Loki to the vet today.
  • edited November -1
    fingers crossed!
  • edited November -1
    Well, Loki's visit to the vet was yesterday. I meant to update sooner but I accidentally left my computer at my parents' house.



    It turns out Loki did have a stroke. He's getting better every day, regaining balance and seems to be comfortable and happy. There is definitely something different about thim, though. He seems a little slower. He is slower to react to things and seems confused a lot of the time. The right side of his face is drooping and he still has a head tilt. He still isn't very coordinated and has been quite sedate. He spends most of the day lying in the driveway or on the porch.  He's eating now that I've started mixing his kibbles with wet dog food.  



    The vet told me to make sure he keeps improving, especially his eye. When I took him to the vet, his right eye was turned down and was having difficulty focusing properly. His focus is getting better, though. We'll see how things go as his brain heals and he recovers. The vet told me there aren't any treatments (unless the stroke is a symptom of another disease, which it doesn't appear to be) and no real way to prevent another stroke beyond keeping him comfortable and healthy. The vet also told me that dogs need treatment within three hours of having the stroke for any benefit to occur, but by the time you notice your dog has had a stroke, it has already been three hours. The dog can't tell you what's going on and the owner really only notices the after effects. He is very likely to have more strokes, and it will probably be the cause of his death eventually.  I find it frustrating, feeling like there's nothing I can do.  



    It's kind of like having a different dog now, which will require some getting used to. I'm happy that he's still alive and he still seems to be enjoying life. His tail is still usually wagging as he keeps an eye on what we do around the property and relaxes outside getting lots of sun. It's sad to see a friend deteriorate, but I have a new appreciation for the time we've had together and the time I have with my other dogs and family members.  


  • edited November -1
    I' sorry to hear that Heidi. But I think you're approaching it the right way. Loki will be a bit different but he's still with you and enjoying it. Keep him happy and comfortable and give him loads of love.
  • edited November -1
    I'm sorry. Be sure to cherish every moment and take a lot of pictures. But..I'm sure you're already doing all those.
  • edited November -1
    Heidi I'm so sorry to hear that you weren't given better news.  I am glad to hear though that Loki seems to be doing ok, even if he is now slower than he was.  As long as he is eating and able to enjoy laying in the sun then that is good.  It's never easy watching a pet get old. 
  • edited November -1


    I'm sorry to hear that too. 


    I was thinking about this last night and was wondering what the outcome was. It worried me that something catastrophic had happened that might have caused you to not let us know. In that light, this is actually not bad news.


    It sounds like he is comfortable and happy to be with you which is all that you can ask for, regardless of a dog's age or health problems. Keep us updated.

  • edited November -1
    I am glad Loki is improving. Please keep us posted. I hope the improvement continues.
  • edited November -1
    I know how hard it is to see these kinds of changes in our furry kids.  But Loki is just as happy to be with you even though he has been affected by the stroke.   Give him a nose kiss from us!
  • edited November -1


    man, I'm sorry. Poor guy, but as the others mentioned he is improving so let hope that continues!

  • edited November -1


    Im so sorry to head that Heidi.  But im glad that he is improving and recovering.  It must be really hard to take in, but he seems to be happy and comfortable, which is awesome.  I think you're doing a great job.  I hope he keeps improving and hopefully recovers from the stroke 100%. 

  • edited November -1


    I'm so sorry too. Give her lots of hugs from me hope she improves soon!


    Hugs  

  • edited November -1
    Im so sorry too!  Improvement is very good, keep is posted.
  • edited November -1


    Loki suddenly stopped eating and drinking.  He was doing so well.  His balance is great and his eyes are focusing normally... then it seemed like he just gave up.  The day before yesterday, he refused to eat anything unless I handfed him wet dog food and yesterday he wouldn't eat or drink at all.  I have an appointment in half an hour. 


    He looks terrible.  His eyes are sunken in and he's acting like he's in a deep depression.  Yesterday he didn't even want to be inside with his family at all, he just wanted to sit alone outside and not eat or drink or even move.  This morning when I woke up, I thought he was dead.  His eyes were glazed over and it took me a while to even get him to move.  I immediately got myself and Isaac ready and we drove into town and got the soonest appointment possible. 


    This is not looking good.

  • RyuRyu
    edited November -1


    I hope the appointment goes well - keep thinking positive!

  • edited November -1
    Hondru I am sorry to hear that Loki is not doing well.  I hope you are able to figure out what is best for Loki, not matter what that may be.  My thoughts are with you and Loki.  He is lucky to have such a loving owner looking after him.
  • edited November -1


    Man, poor guy - Don't give up Loki, you were doing so much better!


    Keep us posted as to what your vet says. Jen and I will thinking of you guys. Give Loki some love for us.

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