[VIDEO] American Akita and Akita Inu Working Bear, Boar, Deer, Raccoon...
Here's a video of an AA and a JA working bear (on chain) in Russia. Also a bit of them working boar.
There are some Russo-European Laika, East Siberian, and Wast Siberian Laika in the video too.
It's nice to finally see a video of Akita doing real work! And they are impressive!
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There are some Russo-European Laika, East Siberian, and Wast Siberian Laika in the video too.
It's nice to finally see a video of Akita doing real work! And they are impressive!
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Yes @brada1878 these dogs are pretty badass! It does remind me of how Koda is when he gets near any large animals, horses, cows, etc. He goes for the back leg at the tendon. What impresses me is that is comes so naturally to him, as I assume it does for these dogs. He actually looks really wild, aggressive, and intimidating when he does it which is so funny cause he's the biggest mama's boy.
I give the dogs way more credit than the bored looking humans.
Tho, if you have bear hunting dogs, and need to test them... I dunno how one does that w/o containing a bear. I've seen those mechanical bears, but I dunno that they really get the job done.
I much prefer the Japanese-style caged bear approach, but I think that is illegal there now ( @TheWalrus ).
I've been looking at these types of video for some research I am doing and was shocked when I saw this one (Vladimir actually sent it to me from a friend of his in Russia - an Akita lover).
ETA - Oops, cross-posted with you @kimputai ... I have seen some nasty BK videos too. By no means am I saying this is proper treatment of a bear or a dog...
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it's the same as throwing a badass hunting dog in the ocean next to a great white......the shark will use the dogs bones to floss his teeth..................excuse my French.
The first bear in the vid was HUGE! Bears really freak me out, I'm glad they are "little" here in Oregon. They are the #1 reason why I am very reluctant to move to someplace with more (or Brown instead of Black) bears than here.
@ Brad The caged bear training is still done in Hokkaido.
It is cool that someone is working his akitas, but forgive some of us our lack of appropriate awe- we have all been taught that akitas hunt bears, etc. and at some point have all read or been told that they are/were these awesome ninja dogs and other hype to begin with, and only found out LATER that they don't and they aren't and too many dont like to get their paws dirty, so that some DO and some ARE just takes us back to where we began, slightly modified: that IF any akitas still hunt bears and legendary sized boars, it would probably be very few, very far away and and in an extreme and anachronistic rural milieu.
I think these dogs look very businesslike about it!
What's unexpected to many of us is to actually see the bear, and the guy with the pointy stick (what's he doing?) and to grasp that somewhere out there, people still do this with bears. There's a houndsman up the road from me who has a state license to run his (many, noisy) hounds on bear (hunting as well a driving off nuisance bears), but he doesnt keep one to practice on. I don't know- therefore- if keeping a chained bear (possibly detoothed & declawed- we dont know) actually IS necessary? Neither his hounds nor those akitas are expected to kill the bear themselves, so either way its a seeking & baying task...thinking out loud here, I dont *know* anything... someone who hunts will know the answers...Gen, Shigeru?
In regards to your neighbor, it sounds like he is taking the "swarm" approach to bear management - using lots of loud dogs. This minimizes the risk of any getting hurt as they act as one large threatening entity (and so less practice is needed)... However, it's not really a useful technique if one just wants a bear-aggressive dog to hike or hunt with. I know I can't hike with 10 loud barking hounds.
Also, in the case of the Laika, they are hunting other things, their bear aggression was a useful tool for the lone woodsman out hunting moose or marten... They typically were not used to hunt bear (tho they were very bear/predator-aggressive). So, if a Laika was running around the woods barking like a hound, the hunter wouldn't catch very much game.
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The bear revenge was sad, but hey it's bound to happen when the bear is cornered and feeling threatened.. Fight or flight take the flight then the bear has nothing else, but to fight.
I'd think they would had a gun in case something like this happened to their dog a big stick doesn't do anything to an enraged bear.
Yeah I agree practice is needed to be sure the dog has what it takes to take on the prey of choice..
A fenced in training ground where they have a bear in it? Coarse that would risk the men getting attacked by the bear.. and Bear might be able to defend and hurt the dog more? I dunno.
I was thinking along lines how they train hunting dogs on coyotes and fox..
Thanks for sharing. I don't think I'd ever want to come upon a bear if I ever decide to live in a area with them I think I'd get me a Laika. I like the breed anyways so I might have one eventually down the road.
Coarse things in the states are strict on things.
But still, I prefer not to have them treated like that, though it still was cool to see the Akitas working.
Gotta admit, Gen, that's not a bad idea for nuisance bears!
Yes they do get the job done. I'm going to take Ife and Nuuk to this mechanical bear test when it's near us. Can't wait it
Back to the original video, that is the first time I've seen footage of Akita working. Really interesting.
Also, to train a dog to hunt a certain type of game, it can be done without pen/cage training (and often is done without it). The dogs will just need a lot of time in the mountains where there is a lot of the type of game you are looking for. It's just one tool to gauge quickly what a dog's reaction is to prey, and to see where they are at. I'm of the belief that at a certain point it actually becomes counter productive for a maturing hunting dog to go in the pen, but that's another conversation for another time.