Raising children vs Raising puppies and its similarities

edited November 2012 in General
I have no intention of having kids in the near future, but I noticed I was being more of a "daddy" with Eevee, especially during Halloween.

We went to four Halloween parties and participated in two costume contests. We purchased two different outfits (pirate and zebra) for the occasion too. Next year, I'm going to be sewing her costume... and it will be baadass.

Anywho, I noticed I was becoming a pageant mom! I was even giving her pep talks before she took stage and hugged her when she lost. She won second place as the pirate though. Will I be doing this with my kids?

So, will I give my children the same amount of attention? I paid for training lessons, park memberships, and tons of new accessories for her already.

So questions that came up when I was receiving our second place set of goodies:
  • Has anyone used their dog training techniques with their children? On accident or on purpose? Has it worked?
  • Do you feel as though you give your dogs more attention than your kids?
  • Have you paid for specialized training sessions for your dog such as swimming when you threw your kid in the pool to learn?
  • Is taking your kid to the park as important as socializing your kids at a certain age?
  • Did raising a puppy prepare you for having a child or vice versa?
Thanks in advance!

Comments

  • Not a father, but an accomplished uncle:
    1. Yes accidentally tell kids to sit when they start screaming and running around. not too proud of that b/c i use the same hand signals i use for ciqala.
    2. n/a but would I? definitely not
    3. nope
    4. depends on who you ask, culture, and a bunch of other factors. I would say yes though, I have met a lot of self professed "sheltered-as-a-kid" people, they are... unique.
    5. YES. I think I'd be a terrible father if it wasn't for the patient tutelage of Saru. He kinda helped me get all of the kinks out of the experience of being responsible for another living, dependent, thing.
  • Interesting thread as we are dealing with a 4 year old, one on the way and was 4 now 3 dogs.... here's my opinion :o)

    Has anyone used their dog training techniques with their children? On accident or on purpose? Has it worked?
    A lot of the same principles apply but HOW you implement them are different, lol - if that makes sense. (rewarding the behaviors you do want whether it be with attention or something tangible vs. ignoring the bad unless is is something that is dangerous/destructive ... taking away privileges at times) and yes, it works with both. I have many more examples as we are actually doing a parenting class right now called The Incredible Years... it's awesome!

    Do you feel as though you give your dogs more attention than your kids?
    We don't, but at times our daughter feels that we do - kids just always want to be in the mix and at our daughters age there are days she wants every second of every minute of our time and attention :o)

    Have you paid for specialized training sessions for your dog such as swimming when you threw your kid in the pool to learn?
    No, we pay for her swimming classes too! lol - we've only done training classes with our dogs so far... if we needed to her classes would always come first.

    Is taking your kid to the park as important as socializing your kids at a certain age?
    Yes, yes, yes!!! Kids really need time with other kids (especially OUTSIDE!!!) and most importantly kids learning by playing. Even in preschool their lessons are structured into play sessions - which is why preschool teachers ROCK!! They teach without the kids even knowing that they are learning!!!

    Did raising a puppy prepare you for having a child or vice versa?
    Yes, and mainly it's just the patience and unconditional love that both of them need - both are a big responsibility and with both - their needs will need to come before your own.
  • I have:

    - made kissing noises to get the attention of my nephew (his mom constantly scolded me because her son is not a dog)
    - done the "sssst" or "aaah aahhht" sound at my misbehaving nephew (luckily it's a cultural thing so his mom is fine with me there)
    - showered my nephew with praise when he did something good
    - ignored him when he was misbehaving

    Jesse
  • @Zinja LOL I was actually just thinking this the other day. This was my status after the dog park:
    ---
    So now I know what being a new dad will be like. It was 75% guys (mid 20s to early 30s) at the dog park today, conversations all went along the lines of "Hey hows it going, how old is he/she?" "Oh she just turned 9 months old!" "Wow she's really cute!" "Thanks! How old is yours?" "He just turned 14 months!" "Awesome!"
    Manliest day at the park ever.
    ----
    It was pretty much the same scene as "What To Expect When You're Expecting" where it's the group of dads at the park, all talking about the mistakes and accidents that they've done with their kids and talking proudly of their accomplishments haha.

    I don't have any of my own kids or enough interaction with my nephew & niece in Texas to be able to answer the questions. I am definitely going to be making a badass samurai, ninja, or some game related outfit (Star Wolf or DBZ?). I also find myself looking up lessons, learning to be more patient due to having to clean up messes, and whenever I talk about Ren and her accomplishments it feels like I'm talking about my own child haha.


    @Yandharr @CrimsonO2 LOL I'm just imagining both of your situations. I'll probly end up doing this on accident, then if my sister gets mad I'll just keep doing it on purpose
  • -I've accidentally yelled at my boyfriend "no" like how I would reprimand Toki.... Lols were had.

    -I've learned how to ward off children running up to Toki. You have to have a serious face and tone and stand tall, like reprimanding a dog. The same. Is that terrible?

    -I've learned how to talk to children after having Toki. It still feels verryyy artifical since I don't like children, but I've learned how to fake it now. Is that also terrible? lol!


    Having no children nor wanting any in the next 5-10 years, I have also wondered ALL the same questions you've brought up. Such a good thread topic!! :)
  • edited November 2012
    Interesting thread!

    Has anyone used their dog training techniques with their children? On accident or on purpose? Has it worked?

    * I guess I would have to say yes, in a way. It is really just redirection, discouraging undesirable behaviors, etc. It is the same concept with humans and pets you just swap the method around to fit when working with children and then with your dogs.. You teach your infant/toddler not to touch electrical plugs by removing them from it and you might even say "no" or "ah-ah" or "that will hurt you" and so on. With your dog it is very similar: you see puppy chewing on the cord that is plugged into outlet and you do basically the same thing. Of course, it depends on what you are trying to teach/train because sometimes there are no similarities at all in my methods.


    Do you feel as though you give your dogs more attention than your kids?
    * No. As stated above, though, sometimes my children think I do. It is usually times when one of the teenagers wants me to take them somewhere unplanned and I say: "Yes, I'll take you but let me get the dogs walked real quick". Then he/she is all "You're taking care of the dogs before you take care of me" and then I explain "If I had known you wanted me to take you somewhere I would have had them taken care of and I would've been ready but you dropped it on me last minute so I just need a few minutes to take care of that and we will be on our way"
    In reality, my children are always first and I do everything possible to make them feel that they are the most precious and most loved kids ever!

    Have you paid for specialized training sessions for your dog such as swimming when you threw your kid in the pool to learn?
    *No.

    Is taking your kid to the park as important as socializing your kids at a certain age?
    *Yes. I believe it is.

    Did raising a puppy prepare you for having a child or vice versa?
    *In some ways I am sure it did.
  • edited November 2012
    I don't have children but i work at a mental hospital where we primarily treat people who suffer from ocd and we use redirection when they become flooded with triggering circumstances. Behavior therapy seems to work across the board whether man or beast.
  • also.... I think that basic psychology works on both children (and adults) and dogs: ie: positive reinforcement. It is how you get stubborn people to do things...and akitas.
  • They had a Big Bang Theory episode about it!



    Penny got rewarded by Sheldon by giving chocolate :)
  • LMAO @Zinja I never saw that episode that is awesome. I'm going to have to use this...
  • There are definately similarities, especially of moms posting zillions of photos on facebook.
    The only difference is that i actually LIKE looking at daily doggy pics, but find it annoying when people post pics of their kids, hahaha!!
  • @MapleTwinkie you're enabling me. Stop that. :P
  • @poeticdragon , hahah you're like my drug dealer, you're feeding my addiction.
  • LOL... See, and my relatives complain that they want to see pictures of my kids and don't want to see dog pictures all the time.
  • Hahaha @poeticdragon @MapleTwinkie @Hondru. Everyone I know is all "Dude my news feed has turned into nothing but baby pictures, at least yours is cute to look at"
  • http://www.salon.com/2012/11/10/i_love_my_dog_as_much_as_my_child/

    Speaking of children and dogs.... Anyone who loves their dogs and doesn't have children, or might love their dogs as much as their own children, should def. read this.

    It is a bit long, took me quite a while to read it, but it was so well written and the subject is interesting and I could relate.

    Plus, the two dogs in the story are Shibas :)
  • edited November 2012
    @jellyfart I just finished it, really interesting article! I agree with the author, it's possible to love your animals as much as other people. It's not the same "kind" of love/affection, but equally important to a person. Dogs in particular give a person a lot of introspection into themselves and provide a lot of joy. The best thing about getting home is Ren running down the stairs with her tail wagging and airplane ears, ready to lick my face in that "OMG you're home!" way that dogs have. Always and every day, which can't be said of people. It doesn't mean I appreciate people less, I just appreciate how enthusiastic and happy my dog is, which makes me happy even after a bad day.

    The husband sounds like quite the douche, then again he was taught as a child that animals were disposable. Did you read the comments btw? It's funny reading people who only have cats complain that animals can never give as much fulfillment to a person as other people :P That Van Helsing novelty commentator is also doing a pretty good job trolling lol.
  • I'm also guilty of posting loads of dog pics on FB... that's pretty much all I use it for these days xD. @MapleTwinkie I like looking at my friends' dog pictures too... and I'm also not a fan of the loads human baby pictures some of my friends/relatives post... :x
  • oh god, NOT a fan of baby photos either. The problem with some mothers is that they think that every single photo of their child is completely different than the last, event though in picture one the baby is squinting a little, and in photo two, the baby is squinting a lot. They must see something else that I am not seeing. That is why I try to chose completely different photos of Toki when posting. However, that might just be the photographer in me...

    @cezieg i'm glad you read it. I was afraid no on would read it because it was so long, but it is such a good read. It illustrates exactly how I feel about children and what I anticipate having a family with dogs would be like. I fear it, for fear of rejection. You're not supposed to love your dogs as much as your children. The husband actually reminds me of my boyfriend. As much as my boyfriend is more supportive of the pup we got, Toki has always been my dog, my responsibility. He knew I wanted a dog, that is why he was okay with me getting one (and even one more in the next year), but only on the premise that he was in my responsibility fiscally, emotionally, and obediently, (like, teaching him obedience, dunno how to word it, lol). He loves Toki like a family member, more than the husband does in the story, but nevertheless, Toki is mine. He thinks dogs are nothing more than four legged furry things due to the fact that he grew up in a rural area where dogs came and go and were always outside dogs. They were, essentially, to relate back to the story, "disposable". But Toki lives in a very loving home regardless, love from both him and I, so I can't complain. Toki is happy :)
  • My friend had a baby and her sister commented on the large disparity of dogs to baby photos. She said her dogs are always running around doing something interesting. Her baby just sits there or lays down. It's also more exciting to take a dog's photo as compared to a still subject.
  • OMG, I watched Modern Family and Stella needed swimming lessons and Manny was thrown into the pool. lol



    Watch 0:27 :)
  • edited November 2012
    Animals have always been my heart and soul - I was the little girl bringing home stray kittens and "ooooing" over every horse I saw (even though we had our own at home) and wanting to pet eveyr dog I walked by (even though we had our own at home, lol) bringing home strays to get them to our local animal rescue ... Animals will always be a HUGE part of my life, I will love them endlessly and they will always be big part of what defines me.

    BUT :D the day I met my daughter face to face ... the feeling was indescribable! I loved her in my belly but the first time I saw her face it was unlike any love I have ever experienced before. The feeling of my love for her is completely, in every way - different :) It washed over me and affected me to my core!
  • @CarabooA , well said :-) i feel exactly the same, and couldnt have said it better myself :-)
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