Raising a shikoku pup

Hey Nihon-ken lovers,
We have two Siberian Huskies, Reno and Rico. They are brothers and all their life together. Not always easy but they cannot be without each other. Meanwhile they are past 11 years and luckely still very fit. But one day…
Now we are considering a shikoku for the future, not in a hurry. Just thinking, does it make sense to wait to start from scratch with a new puppy or is it very helpful to have two adult (and very obedient) Huskies to help with the raise of a Shikoku puppy. What about the temperament; is it okay to add a third male to the pack?
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  • edited November -1
    Welcome.
    You have been promoted to member. You are welcome to browse all categories now.

    Any reason you would want a third male?
  • edited November -1
    Well, maybe because of the size, since both our huskies are kind of big. But one other reason is that we are not looking for "Siberian Shikoku puppies". Once the shikoku will be on its own, we may consider adding a second one. That could be a female.
  • edited November -1
    If you get a Shikoku puppy, you will likely have to sign a contract to get it spayed/neutered when it comes of age.
  • edited November -1
    Welcome to the forum! I do not have any person experience with shikoku... yet! But I do know that my shiba inu love to be around and play (hard!) with huskies. I imagine a shikoku would do just as well, irregardless of size.

    Your huskies are beautiful.
  • edited November -1
    Welcome!

    Lovely Siberian boys you have.

    Ah, so the your Sibs are still intact then, I would assume?

    Really, it depends on how well your current males do with other males. I have 2 intact Shikoku: 1 male and 1 female. My boy (nearly 2 years of age) does well with both genders. His thing is just a size issue. He does well with dogs of both genders so long as they are his size or smaller. He does not do very well with dogs larger then him.

    If your Siberians are great with other dogs, especially males, both puppies and adults. Are your Sibs very welcoming to strange dogs that come to their house?
    I don't forsee your young male Shikoku puppy causing any issues for the other boys. So long as he grows up with your boys, he should repect them. There is such a vast age difference as well, which I find really helps. The real question is, how will your boys react to him?

    I wouldn't expect your male Shikoku puppy to get along with other males as an adult, aside from your current boys. Though, it is quite possible with socialization as a puppy that he can - my Shoushuu is an example of this. However, he is kind of an "odd ball" anyways, lol.

    I believe "Edgewood's" boy, Kuma - also intact, can also get along with other males.

    If you're planning on getting a female as a canine pal to you and your new Shikoku boy, after your Siberian boys move on in life. I don't see any issues, just be sure to socialize your new puppy to other dogs and teach him proper manners.

    I think you'll be fine.

    So...how are the Sibs with other males?
  • edited July 2009
    Why is it that one has to sign a contract about the neutering? Is that a general regulation or specific for the USA? We live in the Netherlands, are there different regulations in different countries about this?
  • edited November 2009
    It depends on the breed. Both are playful, Rico (the dark one) more than Reno. Last night he played with a huge New Foundlander, being 2.5 times his weight. That one was a 6 years old male and friendly, Rico played like he was the (11 year old) puppy, like standing on his rear legs to reach the big guys face and putting his front legs around his neck. Absolutely fantastic to watch. Reno is a bit more distant but okay as well, very social. Never had any fight other than with Rico. Rico is a bit more macho, but still plays with most dogs on the street, unless they are big and aggresive. Then he doesn't back off, but shows his teeth, Reno would turn around and find an other dog to play with.
  • edited November -1
    Welcome to the forum!

    We live with 2 Shikoku, and some other breeds. We have 3 intact males and 2 intact females (and some fixed males and females). The only time having intact males together is an issue for us is when our females are in season, otherwise the intact males act pretty much the same as the fixed males.

    Shikoku are tough dogs, even the small females. Our smaller female Shikoku (Loa) plays roughly and effortlessly with our Ovcharka who out weigh her by 90+ pounds.

    My concern would be that your 11 year old dogs may not be very excited about a Shikoku puppy jumping on them and being crazy. Shikoku puppies are VERY crazy little puppies and play hard. If you had a situation where your current dogs didn't want to play with your new puppy (because of the drastic age difference) you could end up creating a play deficit in your Shikoku puppy that would later lead to some pretty bad impulse control issues as well as barrier frustration.

    I'm no expert, but that's my opinion. Hope it helps!

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  • edited November -1
    Really handsome Huskies, BTW. :o)
  • edited November -1
    Great looking boys you have there.

    Jen, irregardless is not a real word. ;P
  • edited November -1
    Joe- ir·re·gard·less Listen to the pronunciation of irregardless
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    Function:
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    Etymology:
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    Date:
    circa 1912

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  • edited November -1
    I stand corrected.

    Jen, irregardless is a real word. But not an accepted word;)

    Jess. I appreciate that we can conversate about this;)
  • edited November -1
    Joe. You are looking for a grammar smackdown I tell ya!
  • edited November -1
    lol, I surrender. I never knew irregardless was such an old word. I thought it was a recent development.
  • edited July 2009
    Hello Jess and Joe,
    thx for discussioning grammar on my question & answer list :-) Since I'm from the Netherlands, English is not my native language. Although it wasn't addressed to me, I do like this type of conversations, very educational. There must be some spelling mistakes (and more) in my text as well, feel free to help me correct it! In this way the forum adds even more than just knowledge about nihon ken and getting to know more friendly dog lovers over the world! Keep up the good work…
  • edited November -1
    I have a BA in English, I can stand my ground with word usage. Read some Joyce, you'll find irregardless-ness!

    I also forgot to mention to OP that my two shiba inu (neutered, male and female) also have an American Akita pal that we meet on hikes now and then, they play marvelously together!
  • edited November -1
    Oh what handsome boys you have...Welcome to the forum!!
  • edited November -1
    Welcome to the forum you have very lovely looking huskies. =)
  • edited July 2009
    Hello Corina and others who liked the pics of the boys. Here are a few more to watch. Starting with Reno, our navy seal, always swimming and enjoying all kinds of water, even salty stuff with high waves. But preferably fresh, so he can drink while swimming.
  • edited November -1
    Welcome! And what gorgeous huskies you have!
  • edited July 2009
    I love Reno's "shaking off the water" pic, shedding it over Rico, right next to him.
  • edited July 2009
    When wet, Reno looks kind of skinny, but still nearly 60 lbs.
  • edited November -1
    Always in the water, or like a real wolf, checking out for prey.
  • edited November 2009
    Rico rather checks out what's going on and becomes active when needed. He is very strong and muscular for an 11 year old dog. We expect him to be in charge in raising the Shikoku pup. At least activity wise.
  • edited November 2009
    Both are crazy with snow, what would one expect? Are Shikoku's never used as sleddogs? They seems to have so many similarities with Huskies. Their fur looks like they can handle some cold, although they originate from the South of Japan. Rico is a sun lover too, amazing how long he can lay right in it, getting a coat temperature almost burning your hands. He is as easy as it gets, never broke a thing in the house, always listening well.
  • edited July 2009
    Hello Jen and John,
    What means "OP"?
    We both love Akita's as well, thinking about one in the future. But not for now, growing to big in our little house. But one day a shukoku and an akita might be a nice couple. I think an Akita is a bit less crazy and more quiet than a shukoku or shiba right? Just to balance it out a bit. To many dogs makes traveling a bit to complicated. We prefer to take them along with us on our trips within Europe in the car. The huskies do really well in the car, can't get enough from it, get in by them selves. Sometimes we miss them in he house, and see we left the front door open. But outside they didn't run off, just jumped in the car for their next ride to some nice holiday location. Like the Italian alps or Corsica.
  • edited July 2009
    Hello Corina,
    thx for your extended answer. Our neighbours own a Belgium Malinois, female, she loves to play with both our huskies, mostly with Reno since he had a crush on her. The most beautiful thing was watching how both were digging a tunnel underneath the fence to reach each other and play or more…
    Just wondering with the dog management, if the pup would be upset if he/she was put in a bench while the big brothers are walking around freely.Wondering how much noise we would have to stand. Probably a must anyway since I don't want him/her to ruin my furniture. The two biggies sleep inside, mostly in the bedroom. They are smart, very smart. If you just mention "sleeping" in a full sentence they pick it up and walk to the door to go upstairs. This happens with many things. They also don't need one word for one thing, they do understand so much. That's why we hope this rubs off to the pup to make him/her learn all that in so much shorter time.
    Can you ever walk a shukoku free from the leash? Ours couldn't before but now it's no problem at all.
  • edited November -1
    Beautiful huskies! One of the breeds we considered when looking for a dog for our new home. Unfortunately, I have no advice to your questions but you have indeed come to the right place :)
  • edited November -1
    Gorgeous Huskies! Welcome to the Forum!

    I owned two female huskies and their play is very similar to the Nihon Ken (I have two shibas now). I think your Huskies would teach an addition well, but like Brad said at 11 years old, they may not want a crazy puppy all over them!

    Good luck though! I love Shikoku!
  • edited November -1
    Shikoku are smaller than huskies. I don't think they would be so great for sled pulling. My female is only 30lbs.
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